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    Tell me if I have this correct please. These are the spots after the blinds obviously.

    9 players:

    1st 3 spots=EP
    Next 2=MP
    co and btn=LP


    8 players:

    1st 2=EP
    Next 2=MP
    co and btn=LP

    7 players: this is the one I am unsure of

    would the 1st two be EP
    then one spot=MP
    co and btn=LP

    or would it be 1 EP
    2 MPs
    and co and btn LP

    Thanks for any help
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    First position to drop 9-max is UTG, hense there ae gonna be only 2 EPs, after that u drop UTG+1 etc.
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    Does it matter what is considered EP, MP and LP for things like 7 players at the table?

    Surely the idea behind position and opening up your range is what is important.
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    Start with the button and go backwards instead of starting with UTG and going forward.
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    ^ the man knows what he's talking about. the button is god and all other positions are named on their proximity to the BU
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    If you're lumping multiple seats into one name, then it hardly matters how specific you're being by the generalization.
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    Quote Originally Posted by spoonitnow View Post
    Start with the button and go backwards instead of starting with UTG and going forward.
    To clarify what I mean by this, consider the differences between a six-handed game and a nine-handed game. Both games have a player who starts three seats off of the button:

    9-handed
    [-6] [-5] [-4] [-3] [HJ] [CO] [BU] [SB] [BB]

    6-handed
    [-3] [HJ] [CO] [BU] [SB] [BB]

    CO always means 1 off of the button, and HJ always means 2 off of the button.

    If you're open raising, then the strength of your position is based on how far you are off of the button. So if it folded to the -3 position in the 9-handed game, that's basically the same situation as if the -3 position started off the action in a 6-handed game.

    There is an effect known as bunching that can change this a little, but when comparing hold'em games of different sizes, it's negligible. If you want to know more about bunching, search Google for mike caro bunching.
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    I would argue that the bunching effect is not the only difference. The mindset of FR players is also different from the one of 6-max players and it is also a reason for which FR does not play exactly the same as 6 max when the first 3 players fold.
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    Quote Originally Posted by daviddem View Post
    I would argue that the bunching effect is not the only difference. The mindset of FR players is also different from the one of 6-max players and it is also a reason for which FR does not play exactly the same as 6 max when the first 3 players fold.
    This is a poor generalization that's largely outdated, and any adjustments made from this are accounted for when looking at how the players left to act will play anyway.

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