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  1. #1

    Default sng satellite to 109 wcoop

    1st round DS tough spot .. alot of hands beat me here, after a bet and a call i just cant see me calling here .. standard???

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    Hero (BB) (t1160)
    Button (t2075)
    SB (t2765)

    Hero's M: 9.67

    Preflop: Hero is BB with 5, K
    Button calls t80, SB calls t40, Hero checks

    Flop: (t240) 9, 6, 7 (3 players)
    SB checks, Hero checks, Button checks

    Turn: (t240) 8 (3 players)
    SB checks, Hero checks, Button bets t160, SB calls t160, Hero calls t160

    River: (t720) 8 (3 players)
    SB checks, Hero checks, Button bets t240, SB calls t240, Hero ???
  2. #2
    Payout structure?
  3. #3
    Quote Originally Posted by Nakamura
    Payout structure?
    1st rd- you need to win the table to make it to the final 6 in the DS
    2nd rd- winner to the wcoop $109 event

    this is still in the 1st rd
  4. #4
    Sorry, what is the DS again? 2nd surely can't go straight into the $109 WCOOP at a $4.40 SNG??
  5. #5
    With both you and sb showing a lot of weakness by checking the turn and river, your opponent is correct to fire with a wide range of hands on a scary flop. Even on the bubble, I don't think you can fold the river getting 5-1 and closing the action (There are also a lot of hands you beat). Now if the sb lead out on the turn and river, that might be a different story....
  6. #6
    You have like 4th or 5th nuts so, do you think the button can fire a donk bet with X8 or X9? Also, what is the image of SB? His flat call might mean he wants you to call, too.

    I believe SB would have folded this if he didn't have "at least" 5-9 straight. I think we will chop it at best and whether this is + or - EV depends on if button fires with the nuts or something like X9 or X8. Did you ever seen these guys trying to steal or doing something tricky?
  7. #7
    Quote Originally Posted by Nakamura
    Sorry, what is the DS again? 2nd surely can't go straight into the $109 WCOOP at a $4.40 SNG??
    DS = Double Shootout
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    in limped pots, you have to imagine opponents ranges being as vast as the ocean, since they really do have random holdings. The problem with that is that they tend to show up with the nuts on coordinated boards like this much more often than not.

    Particularly whenever an opponent lets out suspiciously small vbets like this. He's pretty much never bluffing, therefore never folding.
    There's 240 in the pf pot, and if you know your opponents are not notorious trappers you should have shoved pf.
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  9. #9
    fold the turn. I could see maybe calling HU but three way you're just calling hoping to chop when you may already be drawing dead and the board can still get worse. I could see betting the turn just so you can confidently fold from there. You can also get value from lots of combo draws.

    Calling the river is tearing up money. we are not getting 5/1 because it's impossible to believe we are getting the whole pot, so it's 3/1 at best. If the SB is so terrible he's calling with less than a 5 here you would already know that.

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