a weird one and a simple preflop one from a cash donk

[Genitruc]

1) AKo utg M of 20ish... raise 2.2-2.5ish bb s ok?

2) FTOPS main event eff stacks are 4k, blinds of 30-60, unknown CO raises pot

I 3 pop just under 3x from SB w 77 (pre is marginal?)

flop 29Tcc i bet half pot-ish he calls pretty quickly

turn is a low club, we have 7c... here s the thing. we have 3k left into a 2.2kish pot. standard is prob shove or check-fold but i go for the uber weird 1.1k bet intending to bet-fold, he calls

river pairs the T, board is now 9T23Tccc i check he shoves for my remaining 2k (pot is now 6k) I call

thoughts?

[Fielmann]

1) I'd raise 3xbb. If most of the opponents had very low M's (under 5), or if we were on some sort of a bubble, then 2.5xbb would probably be enough. It's actually a matter of style, too.

2) Pre-flop, I think both call and 3-bet are fine. 3-betting is obviously good for meta-game reasons.
Post-flop you just let yourself sucked into a big pot with mediocre hand. In tournaments survival is the priority. I'd check-fold turn and check-fold river.

[drmcboy]

i would give up on the turn

as played I am confused why you would bet fold the turn but call river? It seems more likely he would bluff the turn with a bare club vs at the river when you're getting 4/1.

More generically I'm not expecting someone who has called 3 times in the hand to randomly decide the river is the spot to bluff. you might hate an over pair here but you're never folding it.

fold

fold

[Genitruc]

i wonder if villain thought he was bluffing w Q9?

[drmcboy]

lolftopsaments

im really torn about pre flop, I can make a case for all three

[revolvingiris]

I think if your going to raise pf then you have to bet more then 1/2 PSB on flop to give yourself a shot at shoving any turn with these stack sizes. Id also be a fan of calling pre.

Im also confused about why you would bet/fold turn but call river?

What kind of sucks is a majority of villains flop calling range got there on the river or improved to beat your range. Im guessing villain is aware enough to know he has 0 FE so that basically removes bluffs from his range.

[Genitruc]

i guess it s a cash reflex but the thinking was to rep massive strength on the turn giving the illusion of very little FE looking to get a call from hands that floated the flop (stuff like KJ w a club)

his value range on the river should be sooo polarized... i thought until i owned myself.

i still wonder if he was bluffing? looking to get called by AK?

[drmcboy]

my guess is he just thought he had the best hand so he should bet and thought 0% about what you would call with.

[revolvingiris]

i still wonder if he was bluffing? looking to get called by AK?

So villains range is 22-66? I mean, basically 77 = AK in this situation because all of villains bluff hands are beat by AK so he wouldnt want a call.

I agree with drmc but I still think his level 0 hands are better than 77. I guess my range would be like 22+, AQ+, some type of flush hand, Tx, 9x. But I would only expect him to have AQ+ like 25% at most and flush like 50%.

Board: Ts 2c 3c Tc 9h

Hand 0: 23.050% { 77 }

Hand 1: 76.950% { 22+, AcKc, AsKs, AcQc, AsQs, JcTc, Jc9c, Jc8c, Tc9c, Ts9s, Tc8c, Ts8s, Tc7c, Ts7s, 9c8c, 9s8s, 9c7c, 9s7s, 8c7c, 8c6c, 7c6c, 7c5c, 6c5c, AcKd, AcKh, AcKs, AdKh, AdKs, AhKs, AcQd, AcQh, AcQs, AdQh, AdQs, AhQs, T5o+, 95o+ }

Idk if this is the proper way to analyze this situation or not so I just tried to best guess by adding some hands. Im sure drmc will correct this if its super incorrect (and please do).

Board: Ts 2c 3c Tc 9h

Hand 0: 51.149% { 77 }
Hand 1: 48.851% { 22+, AcKc, AsKs, AcQc, AsQs, AQo+ }

This range is way too tight since villain raised from CO but I was curious to see what the #'s were.

[Genitruc]

ya it was def level 0 ownage why do i waste time trying to think bleh

OOH I M IN A BIG DONKAMENT GONNA BE SICK AND OWN EVERYONE


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