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  1. #1

    Default Four hands from last night

    HAND 1:

    Is raising AQo in the SB with a lot of limpers when it doesn't really limit the field worth it? No read here. Too donkish of a call? I was pretty comfortable that he didn't have a set. Some check AKo in the BB at this site/level.

    Cryptologic
    No Limit Holdem Ring game
    Blinds: $0.15/$0.25
    10 players
    Converter

    Stack sizes:
    UTG: $32
    UTG+1: $23.72
    UTG+2: $4.10
    MP1: $10
    MP2: $25.80
    MP3: $18.05
    CO: $11.73
    Button: $53.35
    SB: $19.75
    Hero: $24.62

    Pre-flop: (10 players) Hero is BB with Q A
    UTG folds, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 folds, MP1 calls, 5 folds, 5 folds, Hero checks.

    Flop: K A Q ($0.9, 3 players)
    Hero bets $0.75, UTG+1 raises all-in $23.47, MP1 folds, Hero calls.

    Turn: 6 ($47.84, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $47.84)


    River: 4 ($47.84, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $47.84)


    Results:
    Final pot: $47.84

    HAND 2:

    Would he have paid more on the river?

    Cryptologic
    No Limit Holdem Ring game
    Blinds: $0.15/$0.25
    9 players
    Converter

    Stack sizes:
    UTG+1: $23.72
    UTG: $6.15
    UTG+1: $26.45
    MP1: $18.70
    MP2: $7.55
    MP3: $22.95
    CO: $32.31
    Hero: $25.25
    SB: $38.50
    BB: $24.22

    Pre-flop: (9 players) Hero is Button with A K
    UTG folds, UTG+1 calls, MP1 folds, MP2 calls, MP3 folds, CO calls, Hero raises to $1.75, 3 folds, MP2 calls, CO calls.

    Flop: T Q J ($5.9, 3 players)
    MP2 checks, CO checks, Hero bets $2.7, MP2 calls, CO calls.

    Turn: 8 ($14, 3 players)
    MP2 checks, CO checks, Hero bets $7.5, MP2 calls all-in $3.1, CO calls.

    River: T ($32.1, 2 players + 1 all-in - Main pot: $23.3, Sidepot 1: $8.8)
    CO checks, Hero bets $8.5, CO calls.

    Results:
    Final pot: $49.1

    HAND 3:

    If one of the big stacks called my turn bet I'm thinking slowplayed trips. Is this standard versus shorty?

    Cryptologic
    No Limit Holdem Ring game
    Blinds: $0.15/$0.25
    10 players
    Converter

    Stack sizes:
    UTG: $54.50
    UTG+1: $3.31
    Hero: $40.37
    MP1: $14.75
    MP2: $23.72
    MP3: $6.10
    CO: $9.35
    Button: $25.80
    SB: $18.20
    BB: $10.58

    Pre-flop: (10 players) Hero is UTG+2 with K K
    UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, Hero raises to $1.75, MP1 calls, 2 folds, CO calls, 4 folds, UTG+1 calls.

    Flop: Q Q 2 ($7.65, 4 players)
    UTG+1 checks, Hero checks, MP1 checks, CO checks.

    Turn: 8 ($7.65, 4 players)
    UTG+1 checks, Hero bets $4, MP1 calls, 2 folds.

    River: Q ($15.65, 2 players)
    Hero bets $9, MP1 calls all-in $9.

    Results:
    Final pot: $33.65

    HAND 4:

    Is the river raise worth a call here or are you sure we're up against a FH or higher straight?


    Cryptologic
    No Limit Holdem Ring game
    Blinds: $0.15/$0.25
    9 players
    Converter

    Stack sizes:
    UTG: $18.30
    UTG+1: $52.28
    Hero: $22.85
    MP2: $15
    MP3: $26.25
    CO: $41.82
    Button: $10.10
    SB: $33.05
    BB: $74.10

    Pre-flop: (9 players) Hero is MP1 with 6 5
    UTG folds, UTG+1 calls, Hero calls, MP2 (poster) checks, 2 folds, Button calls, SB folds, BB (poster) checks.

    Flop: 7 9 3 ($1.4, 5 players)
    BB checks, UTG+1 checks, Hero checks, MP2 checks, Button checks.

    Turn: 9 ($1.4, 5 players)
    BB checks, UTG+1 checks, Hero checks, MP2 checks, Button checks.

    River: 8 ($1.4, 5 players)
    BB checks, UTG+1 bets $1, Hero calls, MP2 folds, Button raises to $3, 2 folds, Hero calls.

    Results:
    Final pot: $8.4
  2. #2
    1: Im fine with checking AQ in the BB, especially with several limpers. On this flop Id probably make a PSB, this is a tough call without a read as we arent ahead of a ton that would do this except for a bluff or a flush draw. We are ahead of any weak ace, but they probably wouldnt push here, AJ we are ahead of but again, doubtful that theyd push, AK we are behind. KK, AA, QQ we are all behind but its fairly unlikely that those were limped UTG+1. I think the most likely hands would be AK or some type of combo draw, it would be surprised to see a worse hand pushing here, so Id probably fold without a better read.


    2: If you are betting that flop you should make a bigger bet, Id say atleast $4. On the turn you make a fairly small bet again, Id bet probably around $10. The river pairs the board so I could see just checking behind, but a set would have raised somewhere already so I dont think we are behind when this card comes. The bot is $32 and you bet $8.5 and left liek $5 behind, just push here.


    3: Id bet this flop and get the shortstack all in on the turn.


    4: Behind just one limper I dont really like limping 65s, especially in EP. This river is definitely a call, if BB had lead then a FH would have made more sense, but it isnt too likely from UTG+1, Id definitely call and maybe raise here. Id like to see what other people have to say about this river though.
  3. #3
    I don't know if it makes a big difference, but:

    Regarding the betting-- I know I'm a weak bettor but the hand convertor for this site doesn't take the rake out on each street, so the pot is actually smaller than what is displayed (unless I've misunderstood all this time and when judging pot size you should include the rake).
  4. #4
    Quote Originally Posted by andy-akb
    3: Id bet this flop and get the shortstack all in on the turn.
    Even with 2 players yet to act? There's no guarantee that we'll be able to isolate against the short stack if we lead the flop here.
  5. #5
    Hand one is an easy fold for me. I'd say he has j-10 and is hoping for a caller. With only 2 other limpers preflop, I think a preflop raise is ok, but so is limping.

    Hand two, I'd be more one the flop and turn.

    Hand three, I'm not too afraid of a queen on the flop, so I'd probably bet, but I'm not sure if I play these situations right or not. At the river, I'm willing to lose to 4-of-a-kind.

    Hand four you might have wanted to fold pre-flop in early position, but as it is I have to think you're ahead at the river. Since you don't have the nuts though, I'd just call, and be happy when you win, and be happy you didn't raise when you see J-10 or a FH.
    The turn may have been a good time to semi-bluff. Thoughts?
  6. #6
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    Hand 1: You have a very good starting hand and nobody else has raised preflop, so you should probably raise. Even if nobody folds, you probably have the best hand, so you probably have more pot equity than anyone else, and raising is +EV. That said, there's a lot of hands that beat you on the flop, and not so many hands that would make that reraise that you can beat. (To clarify what I mean here, you're behind to the likely AA/KK/QQ/AK/JT and you're ahead of KQ, and a few unlikely single-pair hands.) Can you honestly see someone pushing all their chips in on this flop with less than AQ a majority of the time? Sure, there are people out there who could do this with Ace-small or a flush draw, but that is a minority of cases. I think you have to fold to the push.

    Hand 2: If you're normally not having a problem getting calls in situations like this, then I don't mind betting a little more on the flop and turn. If he made his boat on the river, you're pretty much screwed, and I'm like half asleep right now, but I'd probably guess checking behind on the river is reasonable. I'd probably bet it, dunno.

    Hand 3: If he's got the Q, oh well. Probably has middle PP or some weird hand like A8s or 98s.

    Hand 4: I think of 65s as a late position hand, but anyway. The button is last to act, and the fact that they didn't bet on the flop or turn after it being checked to them should tell us something. A bluff raised to $3 there doesn't make any sense, but it's not really a powerhouse hand either. A bet of $3 could be something small enough to get called by worse hands if they have a higher straight, thinking if they get raised it's a FH and they can get away cheaply. Then again, a bet of $3 could just as easily be someone with an 8 who thinks they need to get tricky. Calls are probably the thing to do on that river.

    Disclaimer: I suck.

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