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 Expectation Value from Real Money Games - Very Informative!
I don't know if anyone has seen this before:
http://www.pokerroom.com/main/page/g...stats/expValue
You can view EV stats for all Hold'Em hands as a function of position as well as a function of the number of players in the game. These numbers are based on real games played online. I couldn't find out the total sample size, but I to assume its large enough to be statistically relevant.
A few caveats: I don't know if the stats are based on limit only, or a combo of limit and no-limit. I also don't know what stakes/betting structures the stats are from. (actually, it looks like there are from limit hold'em).
Anyhow, I thought the info would be interesting anyways. Specifically, I was thinking about an FTR thread I read where everyone was debating the relative value of AXs for differing values of X. You can clearly see from the excel file I've attached (more on this below) that you shouldn't value AXs where X=<5 over AXs where X>=10 just for the added EV of hitting a wheel straight.
In order to visual the information better, I've loaded up the EV stats for a 10-person ring game into Excel and then use Excel's charting features (trust me, I tried a variety of ways and none were that good). My actual goal was to be able to create a print out of a xyz-plot of the EV numbers as a function of starting hand and position. I can't say I had much success generating a good, printable graph with Excel's built-in charting features, but thought others would find this excel file somewhat useful.
OK ... I now realize that I cannot add attachments to my post. If someone has an FTP or website I can upload this excel file to I'd be more than happy to do so.
PS If you know of a good, free charting/graphing program that runs on windows that will allow you to import excel data, please let me know. I'd still like to try and get a good print out to put on my wall. I think it will really help to avoid playing crappy hands when you know they cost you money in the long run  
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Originally Posted by RiverMonkey
