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    Default 5NL FR AKo OTB 3b pot vs loose-aggro

    Villain is loose-aggro 38/20/70%steal/6.3%3b/2AF/38%AggFreq over 66 hands and 50% fold to 3b (4 hands).

    What does he min-checkraises the flop with, really is the question. After the 3b preflop, would a range of {AA,QQ,99,JTs,AJo+} be reasonable or too optimistic?

    I have 41% equity against this range.

    What now?

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    saw flop

    UTG ($2.46)
    UTG+1 ($11.27)
    MP1 ($5)
    MP2 ($5.43)
    CO ($9.29)
    Hero (Button) ($5.62)
    SB ($5)
    BB ($6.72)

    Preflop: Hero is Button with K, A
    4 folds, CO bets $0.17, Hero raises $0.58, 2 folds, CO calls $0.41

    Flop: ($1.23) A, 9, Q (2 players)
    CO checks, Hero bets $1, CO raises $2

    Hero?
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    The min c/r is often polarized.
    He's a laggy big stack which puts some bluffs in his range.
    This flop kills your 3-bet range, making villain less likely to bluff.
    If you call the raise, half your stack will be in the pot, so this is a commitment decision.

    Logically, you should call or fold. And never fold once you call.

    However, with TPTK in a 3-bet pot at the micros, I don't mind just jamming the flop. You're beat sometimes, but people will spaz call with worse too.

    Interesting spot, it's very close.
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    Quote Originally Posted by daviddem View Post
    Villain is loose-aggro 38/20/70%steal/6.3%3b/2AF/38%AggFreq over 66 hands and 50% fold to 3b (4 hands).

    What does he min-checkraises the flop with, really is the question. After the 3b preflop, would a range of {AA,QQ,99,JTs,AJo+} be reasonable or too optimistic?

    I have 41% equity against this range.
    Man, tough spot. I agree with mike. If you call your are committed. I am always really wary of min raises. 2AF/38% AggFreq. If i haven't seen him take this line before then i fold to min-raise.
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    I would be interested to know your range for 3-betting him preflop.

    Mike is right that his range is probably polarized, so call and let him bluff shove the turn instead of shoving.

    Cliffnotes: He's an aggressive fish. We have AA with a K kicker in a 3-bet pot and an SPR of about 4.
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    just keep clicking call
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    On the spot I didn't think of calling as a good option but I see now that it is better than pushing (even though, as you said, if I call I am committed anyway).

    I think folding is not bad either TBH because JT is unlikely to call a 3b pre and also would raise bigger for fold equity. It's also a bad flop for a bluff as it hits my range. This leaves some weaker aces, but he would probably be better off floating these than raising.

    I would be interested to know your range for 3-betting him preflop.
    It's interesting that you ask this because it made me think that it was maybe better to flat here. At that point in the game, given the amount of stealing that he had been doing before, I was ready to 3b my entire button opening range. The blinds are tight, so it's wide, something like 22+,A2s+,KTs+,QTs+,J9s+,T8s+,97s+,86s+,75s+,64s+,5 4s,A9o+,KTo+,QTo+,JTo
    However your question made me wonder whether I would not be better off flatting with the top part of this range, as his range is so weak that I would be folding a ton of worse hands by 3betting. I would loose at least a street of value doing so, because he is likely to at least cbet (80% cbet).

    He's an aggressive fish. We have AA with a K kicker in a 3-bet pot and an SPR of about 4.
    You mean SPR is about 4 when we enter the flop and we should be willing to commit with TPTK vs an aggro? Are you saying we should be making the commitment decision even before we bet the flop?
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    There are a lot of hands that are profitable to call with that you probably shouldn't be 3-betting here, like suited Aces, suited connectors/1-gappers, suited broadways, etc. A lot of stealing does not mean that you should 3-bet bluff more unless your opponent is folding a lot.

    And yes, you should be thinking about the commitment decision when you 3-bet pre-flop.
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    postflop:
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