Lose money on pairs in the long run?

[ArcadianRock]

I went through my PT stats and noticed I was losing a great deal of money with single pairs. Should this ever be in the negatives?

[Pelion]

low PPs can be -EV from early positions against decent players. medium to high pairs shouldnt be

[bjsaust]

PT doesnt differentiate between hands you folded and hands you VPIP'd.

You gotta play with your filters a bunch if you want to get accurate information on this, otherwise yes, you expect to lose money longterm on pairs in an unfiltered world.

[surviva316]

this includes every single time you had 27o in BB and folded to a bet and the flop came AK2, every time you raised 66 from MP and or called a PFR w 22 from the BU and didn't hit your set (but doesn't include any of the times you DO hit your set), etc and so forth

[Fnord]

Filter out the fold and don't worry about it anyway.

Some PT stats have so many conflicting inputs that it's really hard to make much sense of the final number you get back.

[Love2Race]

I'm still trying to get used to PT3 but my starting PP is up$. I've won some huge hands on sets vs TPGK in the hands of a fish.

[jyms]

there is ahuge difference between PTs stats on hands( Pairs, trips Full Houses) and filtering for PP's. Pocket pairs should be running +$$ but any pair should be in the minus's for reasons surviva316 stated