3-bet oop /w AK (10NL)

[kfaess]

Villain is 55/19/1.8 over 53 hands. I made the 3-bet a little larger because I would be oop when he calls. How bout flop bet sizing and leading the flop? I think $2 will accomplish almost everything $3 will. Also, I'm not really sure what his range would be for continuing facing a 3-bet from the blinds, but given his stats I would assume it would be much too loose and thus exploitable with a c-bet. He also folds 75% of the time to a c-bet.

No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (6 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

Hero (BB) ($10)
UTG ($11.95)
MP ($7.65)
CO ($10.10)
Button ($18.75)
SB ($19.50)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A, K
1 fold, MP bets $0.40, 3 folds, Hero raises $1.50, MP calls $1.20

Flop: ($3.25) 8, 9, 5 (2 players)
Hero bets $2, 1 fold

Total pot: $3.25

[kb coolman]

Standard. Not cbetting this flop is just turning your hand up.

[kfaess]

ok cool. I almost always c-bet in similar situations when I have position, but oop I wasn't really sure what we want to do here.

[Carroters]

Vs some tight villains I might check fold this flop sometimes, but a spew bag like this guy, calling your 3 bets light, will miss this flop with overs so much that c betting is totally right, nh.

[kb coolman]

Vs some tight villains I might check fold this flop sometimes

I disagree. The cbet works even better against tight villains who will give you credit for a hand. You can easily fold to a raise or shut down action on later streets with a call. Just be careful where you double-barrel with a hand like this.

[Carroters]

Tight villains though generally have very tight ranges to call a 3 bet with when they've opened in MP.

My point is if we put them on a range such as (AQs 99-AA) or something similar, it makes no sense to c bet this flop since he wont flat us pre to fold very often on this texture of board.

I think auto c betting this vs a nitty villain would be a spew.

[kb coolman]

When you say tight, I think weak/tight not tight/aggressive. From a true TAG, I would expect a PF 4bet with your range a good portion of the time.

And against a thinking opponent, I'm rarely going to c/f this flop when the villain flats my 3bet.

[Carroters]

I don't think many tags at the micros 4 bet to get it in in this situation with 99 - JJ or AQ very often.

Flop depends on the dynamic you have with a thinknig villain and whether he has a tendency to flat 3 bets with small pairs or implied odds type hands. If he does it's a clear c bet.

Against the guy in the OP it's a clear c bet.

Against a tight player with a way stronger range, I just don't think we fold out enough hands. Plus we're oop and will have to shutdown on blank turns which makes betting the flop vs a tight range spewy imo.

[kb coolman]

I don't think many tags at the micros 4 bet to get it in in this situation with 99 - JJ or AQ very often.

Flop depends on the dynamic you have with a thinknig villain and whether he has a tendency to flat 3 bets with small pairs or implied odds type hands. If he does it's a clear c bet.

Against the guy in the OP it's a clear c bet.

Against a tight player with a way stronger range, I just don't think we fold out enough hands. Plus we're oop and will have to shutdown on blank turns which makes betting the flop vs a tight range spewy imo.

True enough. I think we're on the same page now.

[Carroters]

Lol yeah sorry to hi jack your thread with our hypothetical discussion kfaess. I think this is just one of those very villain dependant spots.

[kfaess]

agreed, def opponent dependent. against a player who is tight pf I think our action depends on their postflop play. even if they are calling with a tight range, most of that range misses this flop, so if they're going to fold often without a made hand then c-betting still makes sense.