Horrible turn bet?

[seven-deuce]

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SB ($10)
Hero (BB) ($13.16)
UTG ($11.71)
MP ($8.86)
CO ($7.55)
Button ($12.14)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A, J
3 folds, Button bets $0.30, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.20

Flop: ($0.65) K, Q, 4 (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $0.45, Hero raises to $1, Button calls $0.55

Turn: ($2.65) 9 (2 players)
Hero bets $1.35, Button calls $1.35

River: ($5.35) 8 (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $3.85, Hero folds

Total pot: $5.35 | Rake: $0.24

No stats, villain seemed taggy, but everytime it folded round to his BTN he opened so i was assuming his BTN range was wide.

Upon review i think my turn bet is pretty much a donation.

After he calls the flop i think his range is pretty much Top pair/JT/FD

I don't think he is ever folding this turn. What do you guys think?

Also even if i catch a diamond he will have the K or A of diamonds sometimes as well.

I think preflop, flop and river are fine though. Thoughts?

[Cobra_1878]

I think pre-flop is fine, not sure about the raise on flop though? What was the aim of the raise?

[seven-deuce]

It was a semi bluff.

I bet $1.00 to win $1.10. 1.00/(1.00+1.10)= 47% so if villain was folding more than 47% of the time this would be a +EV bluff in a vacuum.

I didn't know this at the time though, i just thought villain had a wide range wasn't going to connect with that board a whole lot so i would get a lot of folds and AJ seemed like a good hand to bluff with from my range.

Also i think this board smacks my range so i can rep alot of Kx KQ etc.

[Cobra_1878]

It was a semi bluff.

I bet $1.00 to win $1.10. 1.00/(1.00+1.10)= 47% so if villain was folding more than 47% of the time this would be a +EV bluff in a vacuum.

I didn't know this at the time though, i just thought villain had a wide range wasn't going to connect with that board a whole lot so i would get a lot of folds and AJ seemed like a good hand to bluff with from my range.

Also i think this board smacks my range so i can rep alot of Kx KQ etc.

It's hard to go into detail with no stats on villain. You need villain to fold 47% of the time, on a wet board that I think would hit his range pretty well and he also has position.

Did he cbet a lot of flops? Did he fold to aggression on the flop often?

[Luco]

Nobody folds 47% when they're getting 4:1 pot odds.

This board hits villain's range as hard as yours.

[seven-deuce]

Nobody folds 47% when they're getting 4:1 pot odds.

This board hits villain's range as hard as yours.

I agree with the 1st part, and i never looked at it that way i doubt he'd fold a QJ QT type hand for that price IP as well.

I don't agree with the second part though, my range is a lot narrower than villains and contains a lot of broadway combos. While villain will be opening the same amount of broadways his range will be diluted with SC's and 1gappers etc, so i i think my BB range hits this board more often than his BTN range.

@Cobra Hadn't seen him take a flop, although he was opening the BTN everytime without fail, this is the first time i had a decent hand to call with.

[daviddem]

What is your range of made hands that you raise this flop with? And with these made hands, how much would you raise to?

What is your range of semi-bluffs that you raise the flop with (OESD? Nut flush draw? 2nd flush draw? All gutshots? Gutshot + overcard?)

[spoonitnow]

Getting worse to fold and better to call is always fun.

[Pascal]

Getting worse to fold and better to call is always fun.

This. This isn't a semi-bluff because you don't have that much equity. A or T are good for you which is 8 outs, but an ace kills an action from a pair and even a ten slows it down against TPGK.

[Micro2Macro]

don't c/r flop, call is better

now that you didn't call bet the turn at least $2

[Carroters]

This isn't a board that gets barreled very often I don't think just because you have Kx/Qx so much when you call and noone wants to triple. So yeah, c/c is good, you'll win the hand one way or another enough.

[HarryHatless]

Nobody else think he should have 3-bet PF?

[Savy]

Nobody else think he should have 3-bet PF?

This is exactly what I was thinking. If villain is opening every hand from the BTN then you should really start applying some pressure with a wider range of hands.

[tiltingdonkey]

Not that 3-betting is bad, but with villain opening wide, AJo dominates that range and OP probably wants to keep worse hands in.

If we knew that villain calls resteals wide though then 3betting is a good option.

imo both options are fine.

[Savy]

I wasn't suggesting that he 3bets just because he has AJ, I was suggesting that he opens up his 3betting range in the BB when the BTN opens. Then obviously monitor how the player on the BTN adapts.

[daviddem]

Who said villain is opening every hand from the button? OP says "no stats, seems taggy"

[Savy]

Who said villain is opening every hand from the button? OP says "no stats, seems taggy"

Here

everytime it folded round to his BTN he opened

[daviddem]

missed that, my bad

[HarryHatless]

I just don't like calling on the flop. It may be alright for some players (players who are better than me), but trying to play AJo out of position in a raised pot when you will miss the flop two thirds of the time and are then very likely to be facing a C-bet just does not appeal to me.

If I raise instead then
a) I might take it down straight away and possibly discourage further steal attempts.
b) If villain calls I'll be able to narrow his range and I'll have the betting lead on the flop.
c) If villain 4-bets then I can be reasonable confident I'm behind and fold quite happily.