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  1. #1

    Default JJ faces river bet

    Villain is 32/22, fold to 3bet 60% and cbet 63% over 104 hands, no notes on the guy. BU is 23/11 fishy. I didn't 3bet pre as this guy is a bit stationy vs 3bets, I didn't want to be bloating a pot in which I'd likely be lost even in position. Not sure I should have called the flop but fishy behind me was pretty passive so I wasn't worried about him raising and I figured I could peel one. Turn checks through so when villain bets this river either he's hit the flush, he's thinly value betting 99-KK, or he's bluffing things like KQ, KJ...against this range I've got like 60% equity and I need like 40% to call, is this right? So this is a call?


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    MP ($2.15)
    Hero (CO) ($5.95)
    Button ($12.19)
    SB ($5)
    BB ($4.82)
    UTG ($2.40)

    Preflop: Hero is CO with J, J
    UTG bets $0.15, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.15, Button calls $0.15, 2 folds

    Flop: ($0.52) A, 5, 7 (3 players)
    UTG bets $0.30, Hero calls $0.30, 1 fold

    Turn: ($1.12) 2 (2 players)
    UTG checks, Hero checks

    River: ($1.12) 8 (2 players)
    UTG bets $0.74, Hero?
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    Should add that he'll obv be value betting 88 on the river as well, this was included in my stoved range. Also, I don't think he has that many flushes in his range as he'd likely cbet Axs on the turn, and I doubt he'd have lower than KJs from utg.
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    This would be a tough spot for me. If you think he def bluffs broadways then you might have a call. I also usually find LAG players bluffing for more than 60% of pot. This seems like a thin value bet.
    63% cbet isnt that high and he did it into 2 players which tells me he was prob decently strong.
    If he doesnt bluff the river then you are beating very few hands.

    What is his aggression factor?
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    I didn't 3bet pre as this guy is a bit stationy vs 3bets, I didn't want to be bloating a pot in which I'd likely be lost even in position.
    wat? this is not a reason to not 3bet.

    As played, folding the flop is fine, it's much less likely he's c-betting in a 3-way with 2 fish.
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    Flop is close but probably a fold imo. Calling river can't be good.
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    He just wins, mmkay?
    He's got dat AJ.
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    Fistpump folding with the information we have about the player.
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    If he opens a lot and calls a lot of 3bet, then 3betting strong hands like JJ would be good.

    With the fish in the pot, villain is more likely to be vbetting, so I'd lean more towards a fold since he doesn't cbet a ton anyhow. River's probably a fold.
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    I don't think my fist ever pumps when folding, ever.

    I 3b and cb and then prob shut down.
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    lol @ the bet check bet.

    for sure fold the river

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  11. #11
    WTF!
    3 bet preflop, as played, you said he cbets alot, so this is his somewhat standard line , so I would reraise the flop. bet turn. river is close, but I'd call , you havent shown any strength, so I think he bets with a few hands.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Petulie View Post
    I didn't 3bet pre as this guy is a bit stationy vs 3bets, I didn't want to be bloating a pot in which I'd likely be lost even in position.
    A couple of others have mentioned it, but this is a great reason to 3-bet. If he was the sort of player who 4-bets or folds, then just calling would be fine, but against someone who calls 3-bets, I 3-bet all day here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stripclubjunkie View Post
    WTF!
    3 bet preflop, as played, you said he cbets alot, so this is his somewhat standard line , so I would reraise the flop. bet turn. river is close, but I'd call , you havent shown any strength, so I think he bets with a few hands.
    WAT?

    Always good to shovel money into the pot when all better continues and all worse folds...

    3 betting is good vs this guy, not only makes the hand easier to play but you can do it for value pretty happily, him being stationy and opening a widish range being a plus not a minus.

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