5NL FR Hands for review

I've posted these in my Operation thread. I rarely post there, so it's no wonder I haven't gotten any responses.

Thanks for looking. Here's a direct link to the hands.

Linky >>> http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...ml#post1946677

I'm going to copy the hands here to make it easier for discussion:

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Originally Posted by PlayToWin

Here are some interesting hands from a recent session. Just pick any hands you feel like commenting on. Feedback is appreciated.

Hand 1:
No reads. Only had 10 hands w/Villian.

On the flop, I check/call his c-bet to keep worse hands in. On the Turn, he bets pot, I C/C again for pot control and to keep worse hands in. My TPTK could easily be beat, but I don't have enough history with the guy to make me want to fold this. He could still have worse Q's, JJ, TT, or even AK. He could also be on a flush draw, but I don't think he bets so strongly with a draw. He puts up another strong bet on the River and I kinda hate to call. On the other hand, I realize that I've played the hand very passively. He's probably putting me on a flush draw or an underpair and I could still have the best hand. Hero?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.05 BB (9 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com
BB ($5.46)
UTG ($2.20)
UTG+1 ($3.52)
MP1 ($7.72)
MP2 ($6.10)
MP3 ($4.52)
CO ($7.59)
Button ($5)
Hero (SB) ($6.35)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A:spade:, Q:diamond:
5 folds, CO bets $0.15, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.13, 1 fold
Flop: ($0.35) 5:club:, Q:spade:, 9:spade: (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $0.30, Hero calls $0.30
Turn: ($0.95) 4:diamond: (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $0.90, Hero calls $0.90
River: ($2.75) 7:diamond: (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $2, Hero ??
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Hand 2: FPS or decent play?
Villian is 10/3 over 720 hands. He has a 1.6% 3bet. I don't know what notes he might have on me, but at this table, I had been playing face-up poker. I'd been folding a lot and only showing down good hands.

I open with my standard raise from the Hijack. I thought I had enough equity to call his 3-bet and see a flop. The flop was pretty good, but I didn't love it. I could easily cbet with the nut flush draw. With the low card flop, I felt like he would call any bet with an overpair so I decided to check, hoping he would check behind.

When he bet 2/3 pot, I thought it was a little weak. I made a snap decision to put him all in because 1) I knew the c/r would look really strong. 2) I felt like I had good fold equity based on my table image and his nitty stats. 3) I'm not going to be in terrible shape if he calls. 4) He's kind of short stacked, so it wouldn't be a disaster if I lost the hand.

I didn't like a call here that would maybe give me a tough decision if I blanked the Turn. And I really felt like I could get him to fold. This is a very non-standard play for me, but I went for it.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.05 BB (8 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com
CO ($5.25)
Button ($10)
SB ($5.02)
BB ($2.82)
UTG ($4.72)
UTG+1 ($10.10)
MP1 ($4.40)
Hero (MP2) ($9.89)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with Q:diamond:, A:diamond:
3 folds, Hero bets $0.20, CO raises to $0.70, 3 folds, Hero calls $0.50
Flop: ($1.47) 9:diamond:, 7:spade:, 4:diamond: (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $0.95, Hero raises to $6.65, 1 fold
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Hand 3:
Villian was 31/8 over 60 hands

This seems pretty standard. I'm wondering how others would play it. Bet sizing? Should I have just shoved over his weak flop bet, which looked either trappy or like a drawing hand?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.05 BB (9 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com
Hero (UTG) ($10.35)
UTG+1 ($4.20)
MP1 ($0.95)
MP2 ($10.06)
MP3 ($3.92)
CO ($5)
Button ($10.92)
SB ($11.98)
BB ($4.22)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with A:club:, A:diamond:
Hero bets $0.25, 3 folds, MP3 calls $0.25, 3 folds, BB raises to $0.60, Hero raises to $1.75, 1 fold, BB calls $1.15
Flop: ($3.77) 9:heart:, 5:heart:, 7:club: (2 players)
BB bets $0.40, Hero raises to $1.20, BB calls $0.80
Turn: ($6.17) 7:diamond: (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $1.95, BB calls $1.27 (All-In)
River: ($8.71) 5:spade: (2 players, 1 all-in)
Total pot: $8.71 | Rake: $0.40
Results below:
BB had K:heart:, K:spade: (two pair, Kings and sevens).
Hero had A:club:, A:diamond: (two pair, Aces and sevens).
Outcome: Hero won $8.31
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Hand 4:
I think this is pretty standard as well. Villian 1 raised my flop bet, but he was so short he would do that with any pair probably. When villian 2 called, I felt like I should slow down. The rest of the hand played out as expected. I think villian 2 may have lost value by checking the Turn. Did I play it ok?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.05 BB (8 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com
Button ($1.08)
SB ($22.21)
BB ($6.33)
Hero (UTG) ($7.93)
UTG+1 ($6.03)
MP1 ($1.05)
MP2 ($12.11)
CO ($1.40)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with Q:club:, Q:spade:
Hero bets $0.20, 1 fold, MP1 calls $0.20, 4 folds, BB calls $0.15
Flop: ($0.62) 9:club:, 3:diamond:, 7:club: (3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $0.40, MP1 raises to $0.85 (All-In), BB calls $0.85, Hero calls $0.45
Turn: ($3.17) 9:spade: (3 players, 1 all-in)
BB checks, Hero checks
River: ($3.17) 4:spade: (3 players, 1 all-in)
BB bets $1, Hero calls $1
Total pot: $5.17 | Rake: $0.25
Results below:
BB had 8:spade:, 9:heart: (three of a kind, nines).
Hero mucked Q:club:, Q:spade: (two pair, Queens and nines).
MP1 had J:club:, 9:diamond: (three of a kind, nines).
Outcome: BB won $1.90, MP1 won $3.02

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Hand 5:
Villian is 52/39/39 (3bet) over 70 hands

This is a little more interesting. Typically, I wouldn't call a 3bet with TT, but I noticed Villians 3bet stat of 39% over 70 hands. We hadn't played that many hands yet, but his 3bet% was about 30% at the time of this hand. I hadn't seen any showdown's though, so I felt like he was probably stealing a lot of pots with 3bets.

I donked the flop to try to take the hand right there. I think I had to fold as played.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.05 BB (8 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com
UTG+1 ($3.23)
MP1 ($9.56)
MP2 ($5.10)
CO ($7.50)
Button ($6)
SB ($3.90)
BB ($8.30)
Hero (UTG) ($10.17)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with 10:heart:, 10:club:
Hero bets $0.20, UTG+1 calls $0.20, 2 folds, CO raises to $0.90, 3 folds, Hero calls $0.70, 1 fold
Flop: ($2.07) 7:heart:, 3:heart:, 2:spade: (2 players)
Hero bets $1.25, CO raises to $5, Hero folds
Total pot: $4.57 | Rake: $0.20

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Hand 1
I'd probably 3bet from the blinds against an unknown villain. Why arent you betting your hand for value? Youre getting called by weaker queens, flush draws, and pocket pairs.

Hand 2
Your reraise sizing on the flop is crazy. This is a much better example of a hand to keep worse hands in the pot, as you more than likely have more equity vs villain's range in this hand than in Hand 1.

Hand 3
Reraise sizing on the flop seems a bit off in relation to pot size. I make my flop raise larger to put villain all in and stick a note on him regarding his lead bet sizing in relation to his hand.

Hand 4
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Hand 5
4bet pre. If a villain is 3betting 30% of the time, you should be making adjustments to counter villain's actions.


PS - I'm a donk.

hand1: ya, i feel sick about calling it too. i feel like the only hand we beat that he actually plays this way is KQ, and i dont really see him 3 barrel bluffing too often. At the same time though...wtf could he have? Does AA/KK raise to only 3x in a 5nl game? meh...i dont really see it. people like to get tricky with things like 99 too so i kinda discount that as well. As for JJ/TT...i doubt it. So it looks alot like a chop/KQ to me...call and note imo. The rest is well played i think...but thats comming from a new me that trys to play smaller pots oop and i fully expect others to say that we should be leading so that he cant draw cheaply.

hand2: his range before the flop seems to be weighted pretty heavily towards QQ+, AK, and we'll be oop so fold pre imo. On the flop, only AK is gonna fold. If you feel his range is mainly that based on sizing then +rep. But hes never folding QQ+ here ever. That said, we have decent equity against that range (42%) and ak makes up half his range. So double talk aside, its for sure +EV.

hand 3: psh boring. the only thing id talk about is 4bet sizing...but i dont have the slightest. Maybe larger so that he makes bigger mistakes with QQ+/ak? Beyond that, he put 35 of his 80 bbs in pre. Maybe flat so he might bluff with ak a bit...but really im not worried about him drawing to 2 outs.

hand 4: cool turn card. any other card and i bet again to deny flush odds but im honestly not sure what id do here. i feel obligated to call the river though...and im not sure how fishy id be on the flop...ie i dont know if id just go "lol qq" and reraise.

hand5: being deep here sucks...but i really hate folding overpairs to someone like this. i think i call the 3bet and c/c 3 streets, but as played i find it really hard to fold.

i only have time to comment on the first hand. It appears your opponent had a weaker Q maybe QK suited or QJ. it also may be a busted flush draw trying to look like a value bet. possibly even 1010. those are my best guesses...could be way off but i don't think i am.

either way you should call due to the size of the bet you are getting even money because about half the time your villain will be bluffing in this position

Hand 1. Looks more like he knows he has you beat but doesn't want to scare you into a folding by raising to much. He is just trying to squeeze another couple of dollars out of you.
Hand 3. I suppose that is what a bad beat looks like from the winner's point of view. :-)

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Originally Posted by tomato paste carnage

Hand 1
I'd probably 3bet from the blinds against an unknown villain. Why arent you betting your hand for value? Youre getting called by weaker queens, flush draws, and pocket pairs..

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I think a bet folds out a lot of underpairs. I was worried about the flush draw, but I didn't think he would bet so much with a draw. And I could already be behind, so no need in building a pot. As far as "betting for value", I think villian was betting for me.

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Originally Posted by tomato paste carnage

Hand 2
Your reraise sizing on the flop is crazy. This is a much better example of a hand to keep worse hands in the pot, as you more than likely have more equity vs villain's range in this hand than in Hand 1. .

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Keeping worse hands in? I don't have a hand... yet, but I see your point. I thought he had a big pair and I wanted to get him to fold. I thought I had good fold equity as well.

TPC, this is NO-LIMIT! The kiddy game is down the hall, lol.

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Originally Posted by tomato paste carnage

Hand 3
Reraise sizing on the flop seems a bit off in relation to pot size. I make my flop raise larger to put villain all in and stick a note on him regarding his lead bet sizing in relation to his hand..

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When he made that tiny flop bet, I wasn't sure how big to raise. Maybe 4x. I guess he was trying to trap me, not sure.

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Originally Posted by tomato paste carnage

Hand 5
4bet pre. If a villain is 3betting 30% of the time, you should be making adjustments to counter villain's actions..

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Well, my adjustment was to call with a hand that I would normally fold. If I had caught him with air, I thought he'd fold to my flop donk bet, but I may have still folded the best hand.

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Originally Posted by tomato paste carnage

PS - I'm a donk.

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Aren't we all, lol.

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Originally Posted by JKDS

hand1: ya, i feel sick about calling it too. i feel like the only hand we beat that he actually plays this way is KQ, and i dont really see him 3 barrel bluffing too often. At the same time though...wtf could he have? Does AA/KK raise to only 3x in a 5nl game? meh...i dont really see it. people like to get tricky with things like 99 too so i kinda discount that as well. As for JJ/TT...i doubt it. So it looks alot like a chop/KQ to me...call and note imo.

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Thanks JKDS, I called and he flipped over JT of hearts. I guess he'll make a note that I'm a CS w/TPTK.

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Originally Posted by Tasha

Hand 1. Looks more like he knows he has you beat but doesn't want to scare you into a folding by raising to much. He is just trying to squeeze another couple of dollars out of you.

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Yea, it did look that way, but he was on a OESD. I'm kinda surprised he bet it so hard.

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Originally Posted by Tasha

Hand 3. I suppose that is what a bad beat looks like from the winner's point of view. :-)

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Not really a bad beat since I was ahead the whole hand. I'd call it a cooler, though.