*** OFFICIAL BREXIT SUNLIT UPLANDS and #MEGA THREAD ***

[OngBonga]

The problem with the EU for me is that it is no longer just a trade bloc, like it was when we joined. It's a political and economic union and not under the democratic control of the British people. Just like Scotland don't approve of effectively being under the democratic control of the English, I don't want to be under the faux-democratic control of German and French people.


Very few people want to stop immigration. People want to control immigration. Not many people have a problem with Hongkongers coming to the UK, and most people don't have problems with the Polish, Indians, or anyone else that comes here and works, and abides by local law, which includes Islamic people. People do have a problem with cities becoming saturated with unskilled immigrants who rely on state handouts, and yes, people do have a problem with people fleeing France on a boat. Why are they coming to the UK instead of staying in France? Because we're softer, they have more financial incentive. Also, the French aren't quite as friendly to immigrants as we are. The irony, eh? We're painted as the racist guys of Europe, yet immigrants are so desperate to leave France for the UK that they'll risk their lives. We're not nearly as intolerant as most of Europe.

[Poopadoop]

The problem with the EU for me is that it is no longer just a trade bloc, like it was when we joined. It's a political and economic union and not under the democratic control of the British people. Just like Scotland don't approve of effectively being under the democratic control of the English, I don't want to be under the faux-democratic control of German and French people.

Maybe you should call in to James O'Brien.

What laws has the EU imposed on you that you feel you'd be better off without? Can you name one?

And I don't mean imaginary dystopian futures that you envisage, where we somehow get forced to join an Imperial EU Army that rampages over Asia. I mean right now, something that is currently being imposed on us by the French and Germans.

Very few people want to stop immigration. People want to control immigration. Not many people have a problem with Hongkongers coming to the UK, and most people don't have problems with the Polish, Indians, or anyone else that comes here and works, and abides by local law, which includes Islamic people. People do have a problem with cities becoming saturated with unskilled immigrants who rely on state handouts, and yes, people do have a problem with people fleeing France on a boat. Why are they coming to the UK instead of staying in France? Because we're softer, they have more financial incentive. Also, the French aren't quite as friendly to immigrants as we are. The irony, eh? We're painted as the racist guys of Europe, yet immigrants are so desperate to leave France for the UK that they'll risk their lives. We're not nearly as intolerant as most of Europe.

Did you know the UK makes it own immigration law? The EU does not force us to take unemployed immigrants, that's our choice to make. How does leaving the EU make any difference here?



And here's a more general question: How is leaving the EU going to make your life any better?

[Poopadoop]

People do have a problem with cities becoming saturated with unskilled immigrants who rely on state handouts,

Presumably by "people" here you're referring to yourself. I guess the irony of a guy relying on state handouts complaining about other people relying on state handouts is lost on you.

[oskar]

Why are they coming to the UK instead of staying in France? Because we're softer, they have more financial incentive. Also, the French aren't quite as friendly to immigrants as we are. The irony, eh? We're painted as the racist guys of Europe, yet immigrants are so desperate to leave France for the UK that they'll risk their lives. We're not nearly as intolerant as most of Europe.

Or because some may have come from a french speaking african countries, whereas others may have come from english speaking african countries and they don't enjoy the prospect of communicating in pantomime...
It's a possibility.

[OngBonga]

Or because some may have come from a french speaking african countries, whereas others may have come from english speaking african countries and they don't enjoy the prospect of communicating in pantomime...
It's a possibility.

Ok, that's fine, I'll accept that maybe it's worth risking the lives of you and your family to live in a safe English-speaking country rather than a safe French-speaking country. So the Nigerians, Ethiopians and Kenyans. So why are Somalians coming here? They speak French. How about Iranians? Syrians? I can understand if it's legal migration, where you have a viable choice, but when you're risking your life on a dinghy, why take that risk when it's between France and the UK?

[Poopadoop]

Yeah Ong, usually we have to rely on you for all our pearls of wisdom itt.