**** Elections thread *****

[OngBonga]

Because that's how he looks. He starts losing in the polls and now he's suddenly starts spouting off about rigged this and rigged that. Have you heard how many things are supposedly in on the conspiracy? It's not just Hillary and the polls and the media and the women accusing him of sexual assault, it's corporate banks, the global power structure, etc..

Yup. The corporate elite really want Clinton to win.

1. They asked HIM because HE'S the one who keeps saying it's rigged.
2. They don't ask Hillary because she doesn't say those things.

The way he was baited into answering that question, they might as well have just asked "are you going to kick up a fuss when we cheat?". I was very uncomfortable when this was being discussed during the debate. The whole system is clearly stacked against him.

How so? By repeating things Trump says? Ya, that is pretty biased of them.

Are you watching the same election as me? There is a relentless smear campaign against Trump, it's been in overdrive for months.

Find me main stream articles that are critical of Hillary. Then find me main stream articles that are not critical of Trump. Even the BBC is biased towards Hillary. You might find something if you look hard enough, the media do throw the occasional anti-Clinton article in to pretend they're not biased. But then they go an undo all that by reminding us that Putin is going to destroy the world.

If it's not obvious to you, then I really don't know what to say.

...but we're still comparing a decent person with poop in her hands to a bucket of horse manure.

Hillary is not "a decent person". Far from it. This would've made me laugh if I wasn't so concerned about the impact she'll have on global politics.

I'm not going to argue against the charge that Trump is "horse manure". This is why I mock the American idea of "democracy". America is left with two bad choices. The candidate that I would call "a decent person", Bernie Sanders, was squeezed out. Is this what America wants?

I realise that I come across as pro-Trump. Believe me I'm not. I'm more anti-Clinton than I am anti-Trump. That really does give you an idea of how much of a mess America is in for the next presidential term.

[Poopadoop]

Yup. The corporate elite really want Clinton to win.

According to the conspiracy theorists. And maybe they do, maybe they don't. Trump is promising to lower the taxes of the most wealthy, Clinton is promising to raise them. Seems like Trump should be their man by that standard.

And what if they do favor Clinton? Does this mean they're going to rig the election? How?

The way he was baited into answering that question, they might as well have just asked "are you going to kick up a fuss when we cheat?". I was very uncomfortable when this was being discussed during the debate. The whole system is clearly stacked against him.

Again, you ignore the reason the question was brought up in the first place. If Trump hadn't been ranting and raving about the election being 'rigged', no-one would have had reason to question him on it.

If you keep saying outrageous things and keep getting called out on it, you can't then claim it's because of bias. If you don't want to be called out, don't say things like that, and no-one will bother you.

There is a relentless smear campaign against Trump, it's been in overdrive for months.

Find me main stream articles that are critical of Hillary. Then find me main stream articles that are not critical of Trump. Even the BBC is biased towards Hillary.

Have you considered the possibility that the media is more interested in selling newspapers than in presenting a rational, even -handed consideration of the strengths and weaknesses of both candidates? Sex scandals and a guy saying a bunch of wacky shit are a lot more entertaining than a thorough perusing of Wikileaks material. If Hillary started claiming the election was rigged and saying a bunch of other stuff that sounds crazy, she'd be getting a lot more coverage.

If you think the MSM is there to serve us up an unbiased view of the world then you're mistaken. Sure they're biased. Going from that to the idea that they're in Clinton's pocket is a bit of a stretch though. The source of most of the supposed bias against Trump is as I said before, Trump himself doing crazy shit that gets repeated on the air.

You might find something if you look hard enough, the media do throw the occasional anti-Clinton article in to pretend they're not biased. But then they go an undo all that by reminding us that Putin is going to destroy the world.

If it's not obvious to you, then I really don't know what to say.

I don't dispute the basic facts of what you say, I dispute your interpretation of them.