**** Elections thread *****

[JimmyS1985]

History has shown us one way for oppressed groups (like the Irish once were) to become no longer oppressed groups (like the Irish are today): regardless of the oppression, take personal responsibility, stop being a victim, and start embracing the values that lead to a better life. The Irish, Italian, and Jews have done this at large. A small proportion of blacks have done this. I would argue that it is MUCH harder for blacks to do it, because racism against them has been more institutionalized*, but that doesn't change the fact that we only know of one way out of this hole. r.

Irish, Italians, and Jews blend in with society a lot better because they're White. Blacks have no such camouflage, they stick out like a damned sore thumb. You see a Black guy, first thing you know about him is he's Black before you know anything else about him. You see an Italian, Irishman, or Jew, it's hard to really tell that they are any of these ethnicity's, because their White skin allows them to blend in much easier.

This camouflage has heavily aided them in blending in with the rest of society, unlike Blacks.

[wufwugy]

Irish, Italians, and Jews blend in with society a lot better because they're White. Blacks have no such camouflage, they stick out like a damned sore thumb. You see a Black guy, first thing you know about him is he's Black before you know anything else about him. You see an Italian, Irishman, or Jew, it's hard to really tell that they are any of these ethnicity's, because their White skin allows them to blend in much easier.

This camouflage has heavily aided them in blending in with the rest of society, unlike Blacks.

I agree. However, it is not a complete limiting factor. Notice how blacks who adopt mainstream values are ridiculed for "acting white" and are Uncle Toms. Lots of blacks have integrated into mainstream customs, but since the majority haven't, it has deterred "blacks" as a group from being considered integrated.

Another way of looking at it is that whenever a member of an "oppressed" group does not agree with the claims of that group, they are considered to not be a "real" member of that group. It's how Peter Thiel was labeled "not a gay man" because he supported Trump, how Jenner went from hero to villain in a split second because she supported Cruz, and how the first Hispanic in US history to win a primary was not blasted wall to wall on the news (Ted Cruz).