Was I wrong????

The results of the hand doesn't change the correct decisions throughout the hand. Knowing why you're playing a hand can help show you if you should play it or not and how to play it. If you really can't answer the question of why folding J3o was the right decision when the flop came J33, then you have some serious fundamental issues that I don't think practice will help you with.

Originally Posted by Imthenewfish

The results of the hand doesn't change the correct decisions throughout the hand. Knowing why you're playing a hand can help show you if you should play it or not and how to play it. If you really can't answer the question of why folding J3o was the right decision when the flop came J33, then you have some serious fundamental issues that I don't think practice will help you with.

Well I absolutley know to throw away J3 as a starting hand suited or not but I seem to do that type of stuff a lot. I'l have Q2 or K2 and the Flop wiill come like 229 or something like that and I'll have thrown away 3 of a kind. Now I know its a good play not to play K2 or something like that but how do I know when those typ of cards are coming? I mean you can't always just play AA or AK or AQ or KK can and be successful can you?

Originally Posted by Dimaline312000

I mean you can't always just play AA or AK or AQ or KK can and be successful can you?

Many nits play QQ,JJ,TT,AJs, and PP's for set value. That's about it though, and they can be profitable until a certain level.

Originally Posted by Dimaline312000

Well I absolutley know to throw away J3 as a starting hand suited or not but I seem to do that type of stuff a lot. I'l have Q2 or K2 and the Flop wiill come like 229 or something like that and I'll have thrown away 3 of a kind. Now I know its a good play not to play K2 or something like that but how do I know when those typ of cards are coming? I mean you can't always just play AA or AK or AQ or KK can and be successful can you?

This almost has to be a level right?

The Dude abides.

Originally Posted by Dimaline312000

Well I absolutley know to throw away J3 as a starting hand suited or not but I seem to do that type of stuff a lot. I'l have Q2 or K2 and the Flop wiill come like 229 or something like that and I'll have thrown away 3 of a kind. Now I know its a good play not to play K2 or something like that but how do I know when those typ of cards are coming? I mean you can't always just play AA or AK or AQ or KK can and be successful can you?

First -- you can *never* know when cards like that will hit the flop -- that's the whole point of poker. There is an element of chance -- not luck -- chance can be evaluated using statistics.

Now -- what is the chance that your random hand will flop trips? I think it works out to something like 1 in 136 (I could be wildly off here, but let's assume this number is right). Do you like those odds?

Taking it a step further -- that means you have to win, on average, 135 times your investment to come out ahead in the long run, assuming that you always fold if you don't hit trips on the flop. Do you think that on a board like 229 that you will be able to get someone else to commit at least 135 times whatever you bet originally? Do you even have that much in your stacks when you bet preflop?

Ok, so I get that I made bad choice even though I ended up winning the hand. So what you're saying I need to weigh the odds of what I have in my hand Vs Pot Size, All in Bet Size, as well as Position? Is that correct??

(For those of you are asking if this is a real thread or something like that) Yes this is a real thread I'm just very new and need to learn. Sorry. Thanks.

Originally Posted by Dimaline312000

Ok, so I get that I made bad choice even though I ended up winning the hand. So what you're saying I need to weigh the odds of what I have in my hand Vs Pot Size, All in Bet Size, as well as Position? Is that correct??

(For those of you are asking if this is a real thread or something like that) Yes this is a real thread I'm just very new and need to learn. Sorry. Thanks.

That's correct, along with other factors such as the type of opponent you are up against. Read the articles in the digest stickied in the Beginner's Circle to build your fundamentals.

Originally Posted by Dimaline312000

Ok, so I get that I made bad choice even though I ended up winning the hand. So what you're saying I need to weigh the odds of what I have in my hand Vs Pot Size, All in Bet Size, as well as Position? Is that correct??

(For those of you are asking if this is a real thread or something like that) Yes this is a real thread I'm just very new and need to learn. Sorry. Thanks.

i'm sorry, i didn't mean it to come off as rude..
i was just confused by the "when do we know what cards are coming" part... but as explained already, and done so very well, you need to figure out your odds, equity, and so forth to play winning poker.

Best bet is just keep reading on here. There is ALOT of stuff to learn and there isn't much that you won't find on these pages of this forum. If you read and practice you will come back to this post and understand why it's kindof lol..

Cool, thanks. I'll just keep reading and practicing and stat playing a lot better and tighter.

Santo: It's not big deal I just didn't wany anyone on here thinking I was just posting nonsence just to cram up the boards or anything. Thanks for the help.

Originally Posted by Dimaline312000

Well I absolutley know to throw away J3 as a starting hand suited or not but I seem to do that type of stuff a lot. I'l have Q2 or K2 and the Flop wiill come like 229 or something like that and I'll have thrown away 3 of a kind. Now I know its a good play not to play K2 or something like that but how do I know when those typ of cards are coming? I mean you can't always just play AA or AK or AQ or KK can and be successful can you?

You can play a more hands and still be considered a tight aggressive player, but you have to know the situations and how to play them.

Originally Posted by everyone

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fucking LOL

WOW!!,, What a difference. At first I thought I was just doing something wrong when I took everyone's advice but I got back on today and tried and I actually profitted today. A HUGE Thanks to EVERYONE!!

Originally Posted by Dimaline312000

WOW!!,, What a difference. At first I thought I was just doing something wrong when I took everyone's advice but I got back on today and tried and I actually profitted today. A HUGE Thanks to EVERYONE!!

How large was the new sample? No offense but it was probably a heater.

You're aboslutley right it was just a heater because the past couple days I'm losing my @$$. I'm trying to play only the stronger hand except for a weaker pair here and there but I'm able to get away form them without losing much money if my hand doesn't hit. I don't know if I just make bad decisions or bad decisions at the worng time but It hasn't been good since my last post. Maybe I should have just kept my mouth shut. Any help would be greatly appreciated.