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    Default Turn decision.... Can I ever fold?

    I am a 13/10. Villian is 14/8 over 1k hands. No reads.
    Question 1. On turn, where am I?
    Question 2. If he jams river, can I ever fold?

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    SB ($5.78)
    BB ($8.35)
    UTG ($3.64)
    UTG+1 ($4.27)
    MP1 ($3.98)
    MP2 ($3.90)
    CO ($4.22)
    Hero (Button) ($11.34)

    Preflop: Hero is Button with A, 10
    5 folds, Hero bets $0.16, SB calls $0.14, 1 fold

    Flop: ($0.36) 10, A, K (2 players)
    SB checks, Hero bets $0.24, SB calls $0.24

    Turn: ($0.84) 3 (2 players)
    SB checks, Hero bets $0.56, SB raises to $1.32, Hero calls $0.76

    River: ($3.48) 9 (2 players)
    SB checks, Hero checks

    Total pot: $3.48 | Rake: $0.23

    Results below:
    Spoiler:

    Hero had A, 10 (two pair, Aces and tens).
    SB had 7, J (high card, Ace).
    Outcome: Hero won $3.25
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    Bluff shove river? 14/8 over 1k hands should have you slaughtered here, especially after you 4x it PF and he calls from the SB. It's not like he's taking this line with a worse hand for value so we're hoping some tight/passive player is just spazzing after 1k hands for no reason? But we're in position, block some combos of hands that beat us, and are getting a really nice price to at least head to the river. Folding to a shove on just about any card that doesn't boat us up with these stacks.

    I'm not sure how much showdown value we have on the end here though.
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    Remove results. Ban OP.
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    What are villain's went to showdown and won at showdown stats? What's his c/r rate?
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    Also, I don't understand the c/r on the turn. He's playing a very tight game, and doesn't fold to flop aggression, but then he c/r 3h? We're supposed to believe that he has 33 and didn't fold the missed flop?
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    Quote Originally Posted by paratrooper99 View Post
    I am a 13/10. Villian is 14/8 over 1k hands. No reads.
    Question 1. On turn, where am I? behind the vast majority of the time
    Question 2. If he jams river, can I ever fold? i'd fold this 100% vs this guy
    i know he was bluffing on this occasion (ps don't post results in future please), but given his tendencies over the last 1000 hands, i think you are absolutely crushed when he takes this line the vast majority of the time, barring special reads like him being on monkey tilt or something.

    ps 1000 hands is far too many hands to have "no reads". play less tables or pay more attention. look up some note-taking strategy somewhere and utilise it. you'd be making life, well errr at least poker, a lot easier for yourself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deucebag View Post
    What are villain's went to showdown and won at showdown stats? What's his c/r rate?
    They are irrelevant.

    Also ban OP for not removing results.

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