Slowplaying AA-KK-QQ is BAD: an example.

In reaction to this earlier thread: http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...ve-t89216.html

For some this might be a stupid and unnecessary post. It has been said over a million times on every pokerforum you can think of. Slowplaying high pairs PF is BAD. Next time, remember this hand. One of the villains didn't play his KK very well, see what happend?



$0.01/$0.02 No Limit Holdem
8 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG krueppel1 ($1.73)
UTG+1 Lenadil ($4.83)
MP1 NN 5742 ($1.34)
MP2 bunbury-dmg ($2.95)
CO SKTBO ($2.61)
BTN camouflageTR ($0.62)
SB Dálinha ($3.26)
BB Hero ($3.14)

Pre-Flop: ($0.03, 8 players) Hero is BB
1 fold, Lenadil calls $0.02, 2 folds, SKTBO calls $0.02, camouflageTR calls $0.02, Dálinha calls $0.01, Hero checks

Flop: ($0.10, 5 players)
Dálinha checks, Hero checks, Lenadil checks, SKTBO bets $0.12, camouflageTR calls $0.12, Dálinha calls $0.12, Hero raises to $0.30, Lenadil folds, SKTBO calls $0.18, camouflageTR calls $0.18, Dálinha calls $0.18

Turn: ($1.30, 4 players)
Dálinha checks, Hero checks, SKTBO checks, camouflageTR goes all-in $0.30, Dálinha calls $0.30, Hero raises to $0.70, SKTBO folds, Dálinha calls $0.40

River: ($3.00, 3 players, 1 all-in)
Dálinha checks, Hero goes all-in $2.12, Dálinha calls $2.12

Final Pot: $7.24
camouflageTR shows a full house, Threes full of Nines

Dálinha shows a full house, Threes full of Kings

Hero shows four of a kind, Threes


Hero wins $6.89 ( won +$3.75 )

SKTBO lost -$0.32
camouflageTR lost -$0.62
Dálinha lost -$3.14
Lenadil lost -$0.02

It is incorrect to slowplay pocket kings, but the slight possibility that someone might flop quads with a trash hand isn't really the reason.

I'm pretty sure slowplaying any hand at 2nl is bad .

nice hidden brag

Originally Posted by settecba

nice obvious brag

fyp

It's pretty bad to make huge blanket statements like "slowplaying AA-KK-QQ" is bad.

ya but had he raised from the SB with like 3 limpers no one would have folded and KK doesn't play well in a multi-way pot. This way he can keep the pot small and get away when the flop comes Axx 85% of the time like it does when you hold pocket Kings.

then shove pf, I hear KK plays well all in preflop

or stick 25BB in and shove any non ace flop
also, KK plays fine in multiway pots, especially when you flop a set

ya but every time I get KK in PF my opponent has AA like 95% of the time, and when I flop a set it's likely someone else will flop a straight, as Kxx flops hit a lot of broadway hands, so I'm not always happy flopping top set, especially on like AKQ when my opponent could have pocket Aces or JT.

Do you prefer pocket rockets or American Airlines?

you're all wrong. my signature is the reason why you don't slow play these hands, you bunch of cumquats

if you dont slowplay then they will all fold often times and you can get no value for your pocket cowboys (KK). I wld rather risk some1 makin quads than have no value with such a huge hand.

If you don't slowplay KK then what are you gonna slowplay AA only???

Didn't Phil just try to slow-play AA...see what that got him!

I fold pre-flop here.

There's already three players in the pot and one still to act behind me, and as someone already said the "Cowboys" don't play well in a multi-way pot. Also with 3-4 other players, at least one and probably two of them will have "American Airlines", so I'm probably dominated way too often.

Originally Posted by TonyB73

I fold pre-flop here.

There's already three players in the pot and one still to act behind me, and as someone already said the "Cowboys" don't play well in a multi-way pot. Also with 3-4 other players, at least one and probably two of them will have "American Airlines", so I'm probably dominated way too often.

I sure hope your post is a level.

Originally Posted by littleogre

Originally Posted by TonyB73

I fold pre-flop here.

There's already three players in the pot and one still to act behind me, and as someone already said the "Cowboys" don't play well in a multi-way pot. Also with 3-4 other players, at least one and probably two of them will have "American Airlines", so I'm probably dominated way too often.

I sure hope your post is a level.

lol i hope your post is a level

Originally Posted by surviva316

Originally Posted by littleogre

Originally Posted by TonyB73

I fold pre-flop here.

There's already three players in the pot and one still to act behind me, and as someone already said the "Cowboys" don't play well in a multi-way pot. Also with 3-4 other players, at least one and probably two of them will have "American Airlines", so I'm probably dominated way too often.

I sure hope your post is a level.

lol i hope your post is a level

So you think we should fold kings because multiple people have limped infront of us ? You do understand that's exactly what tony is saying.

Originally Posted by littleogre

Originally Posted by surviva316

Originally Posted by littleogre

Originally Posted by TonyB73

I fold pre-flop here.

There's already three players in the pot and one still to act behind me, and as someone already said the "Cowboys" don't play well in a multi-way pot. Also with 3-4 other players, at least one and probably two of them will have "American Airlines", so I'm probably dominated way too often.

I sure hope your post is a level.

lol i hope your post is a level

So you think we should fold kings because multiple people have limped infront of us ? You do understand that's exactly what tony is saying.

Ok tony's post confused me. The op doesn't even have KK. Just the same saying you should fold KK because multiple people have limped infront of you is horrible advice.

Oh dear god littleogre.

Originally Posted by Monsieur_chat

Oh dear god littleogre.

Well tony is saying we should fold KK because we have multiple limpers infront. That is terrible advice. Now if i'm misunderstanding his post then please point that out but i don't think i am. His own words are i fold preflop. KK doesn't play well in multi way flops. That looks to me like he is saying he folds KK if multiple people limp in front of him. He also assumes that 1 of them must have AA.

Originally Posted by littleogre

He also assumes that 1 of them must have AA.

no, actually he says that AT LEAST 1 person has aces and PROBABLY 2. this point is very important to his post.

unrelated note, you playin' in the next werewolf?

Originally Posted by surviva316

Originally Posted by littleogre

He also assumes that 1 of them must have AA.

no, actually he says that AT LEAST 1 person has aces and PROBABLY 2. this point is very important to his post.

unrelated note, you playin' in the next werewolf?

What is WW ? Isn't it some kinda role playing game ?

Originally Posted by surviva316

Originally Posted by littleogre

He also assumes that 1 of them must have AA.

no, actually he says that AT LEAST 1 person has aces and PROBABLY 2. this point is very important to his post.

unrelated note, you playin' in the next werewolf?

lol surviva is trying to find werewolf fish

who rated this thread 5 spades????!!!

hrm, did somebody say WW? i could have sworn i heard something about a WW...

i wish i could rate a thread 0 spades.

Originally Posted by amir is cool

i wish i could rate a thread 0 spades.

That Kitty doesn't look like he takes badbeats very well .

Oh my fucking lord! What the fuck is happening here?

I don't know if I should lock this thread, or move it to the commune so it can get some proper flamage.

Originally Posted by XxStacksxX

I don't know if I should lock this thread, or move it to the commune so it can get some proper flamage.

[ ] former

[ x ] latter