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    There's a lot of better players on here that may disagree with me but this is the way I'd play it:

    Pre: I'd just flat. I understand that he's raised everything, but we want to keep his range pretty wide and by 3 betting we're asking him to tighten up a bit.

    Flop: C/C if the odds are right. Give him a chance to bluff with the air in his range.

    Turn: c/r to 3x his bet or lead out with a psb.

    As played, check out this thread: http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...ll-173396.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shotglass View Post
    There's a lot of better players on here that may disagree with me but this is the way I'd play it:

    Pre: I'd just flat. I understand that he's raised everything, but we want to keep his range pretty wide and by 3 betting we're asking him to tighten up a bit.
    My thinking here is by raising I help to define his hand a bit if he calls. If I just call he could have anything and then I really wont know where I'm at after the flop. I don't think I'm raising or even calling often enough to make him tighten up so I'm not so worried about that. Plus with QJ I'd be happy to just take his steal and end the hand there to be honest as it's not the best hand in the world to be going to a flop with.
    Quote Originally Posted by Shotglass
    Flop: C/C if the odds are right. Give him a chance to bluff with the air in his range.
    I thought about it but figured again with the A on the board it was a good chance for me to represent with my TAG image. Also, him being so aggressive I figured there wasn't much chance of him giving me the right odds to call with my draw so a bet was the better option. If he had re-raised here and I didn't have the odds to call I probably would have folded and been done with the hand.
    Quote Originally Posted by Shotglass
    Turn: c/r to 3x his bet or lead out with a psb.
    Yeah I was very undecided here and I think maybe the c/r or psb would have been the better option. Tbh, I had hoped my 1/2 psb would represent a made flush that didn't want to completely force him off the hand.
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    Thanks for the link, I will read it when I get home from work.

    A couple of questions though, are people using things like pokerstove during a hand to put ranges in and decide on equity etc or is it more for analysis after the fact?

    I've read alot about equity, fold equity, + and - EV and all this(don't really understand it all yet though) and I'm a little confused as to how much of this kind of thing one is supposed to analyze during the hand and how much is for learning after the fact. It would seem rather difficult to input all this stuff whilst in the middle of the hand with the amount of time given when playing online.

    Or is it kind of like the math for draws, hitting trips, etc where there are basic formula and %'s that are close enough to work and you can just memorise?

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