Quote Originally Posted by XxStacksxX
Quote Originally Posted by RoyalProdigy
Just 3x because its low enough to maybe get a call, gather information and fold to reraise with ease; but high enough to steal the blinds.
I agree with the strategy of 3xing from late position; however, would just like to add another reason for doing it. As everyone in this thread knows, it's certainly profitable, and ideal, to open a wider range in later position. Well a wider range is going to invaribly mean a weaker range. Therefore, I conform to the idea that given our weaker range we should give ourself the opportunity to pot control on earlier streets.

Quote Originally Posted by RoyalProdigy
Basically you want to give the image of a maniac, C-betting no matter what the flop is if its checked to you. Just a little more than half the pot.
I disagree with this. Making the generalization that you should cbet no matter what the flop, is going to lead to some trouble spots. If you are cbetting no matter what the flop is, then you are not accurately accounting for villain's range/tendencies, and your holding. For example:

We know that is villain rarely folds, we should (1) decrease the frequency with which we cbet. There is really no need betting when you whiff here if villain isn't going to fold. And we can (2) cbet for value more thinly. That is we can expect our weaker holdings to get called by worse more often, and therefore be getting more value.

Also, if villain is good, then he will be accounting for your range also. He will/should begin to check/raise more boards that likely missed your range, and likely crushed his. Calling from the SB/BB, and check/raising alot of flops is a great way to "defend" your blind.

I'm just trying to make the point that throwing out a blanket statement that says you should do something 100% of the time, is going to be less than ideal. Sure it might be better than an individual's current strategy, but that's not what we want. We want to find the best possible strategy and learn how to employ it. And the best is going to include us tailoring our play to the villain in question, his range, our range, board texture, etc and so on. Not doing so is just going to get you by. Doing so, and you will start to excel.
C-betting no matter what gives you the image of the maniac. I think thats why Daniel says to do it. Yes you may get checkraised off the pot a few times (when you have nothing). But that few times they check raise with nothing or medium pair just trying to make a move because they get sick of you your gonna get payed off when you actually do have something good. I'm not saying don't be aware of his range, not at all. Be very aware of his range but that does not mean dont C-bet because you want that image of a madman. just because you know someones range does not mean they won't lay the hand down that you think they have (unless its a sick hand). I personally like the image of a crazy guy because i know i can lay hands down with ease while the other person thinks i'm just some idiot.