Quote Originally Posted by grumpy64 View Post
Thank you for the reply. I can actually do basic pot odds but am trying to expand into the realm of GTO and MDF. Neither of which care about pot odds.
I hope I have disabused you of the notion that pot odds is somehow outside of the discussion.

It's just that in Game Theory, the language is to talk about all games, in general, whereas you want to take that general knowledge and apply it to a specific (poker).

I don't know what MDF is aside from Medium Density Fiberboard.

Quote Originally Posted by grumpy64 View Post
We're trying to make his bluffing ev 0
Yes... er... kinda... We're trying to make the most +EV calling range possible. Ultimately, we expect to beat 100% of his bluffing range and hopefully some % of his value range, too.

In order to do that, we will calculate what is the hand in our range which has 0 EV to call. We will call with that hand and all better hands.

Read this article and apply this formal approach to a specific hand and work it out. If you're unsure how to go through the process, then do as much as you can and ask for help when needed. I will walk you through the process.

http://www.flopturnriver.com/poker-s...l-ranges-20883