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    Default QJ turns nuts vs fish 25nl

    note stack sizes
    villain is 30-7 small sample, seems a bit sticky
    thoughts on all streets? sizing?

    Stacks:
    UTG ($63.71)
    UTG+1 ($24.18)
    daven (MP1) ($25)
    MP2 ($8.32)
    MP3 ($12.65)
    CO ($23.15)
    BTN ($10.25)
    SB ($13.02)
    BB ($12.96)

    Pre-Flop: ($0.35, 9 players) daven is MP1
    2 folds, daven raises to $0.85, 2 folds, CO calls $0.85, BTN calls $0.85, 2 folds

    Flop: ($2.90, 3 players)
    daven bets $2.10, CO folds, BTN calls $2.10

    Turn: ($7.10, 2 players)
    daven bets $2.70, BTN calls $2.70

    River: ($12.50, 2 players)
    daven bets $5.90,
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    Quote Originally Posted by bikes View Post
    bad
    anything in particular? just the turn? or everything?
    what about preflop, flop, river as played?
    Last edited by daven; 02-22-2012 at 10:28 PM.
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    wtf is this, bet the turn way bigger. this is when the fish will have the most combos to call a large bet and likely feel commited on any river. now if he has something like 98 78 he'll actually fold some non 0% of the time
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    Quote Originally Posted by Icanhastreebet View Post
    wtf is this, bet the turn way bigger. this is when the fish will have the most combos to call a large bet and likely feel commited on any river. now if he has something like 98 78 he'll actually fold some non 0% of the time
    cheers, i was wondering about that turn sizing. Your reasoning makes sense
    flop sizing ok?
    Last edited by daven; 02-22-2012 at 10:41 PM.
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    Wondering about the flop; What would you have done if short and sticky had jammed? Is that something your happy about with an 8 out draw and bd outs. Doesn't being oop really make this c bet a bit bad? Especially if co calls and button jams over. Am I just being paranoid? Turn we hit the best end of our draw and this guy is sticky make him pay Before he realises he's beat.
    Just thinking out loud really.
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    Flop cbet is fine imo, plenty to represent and hand is pretty disguised when you hit on future streets. Bet at least half pot on turn.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DanAronG View Post
    Flop cbet is fine imo, plenty to represent and hand is pretty disguised when you hit on future streets. Bet at least half pot on turn.
    I think we should be betting at least 3/4 pot on turn since we are just about never changing what range he continues with
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    turn is fine, people are just missing BTN's starting stack
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    If the turn won't affect the villain's continuing range, why not get it all in there with a psb?
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    because it will affect the villians calling range

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    Quote Originally Posted by bikes View Post
    bad
    Quote Originally Posted by daven View Post
    anything in particular? just the turn? or everything?
    what about preflop, flop, river as played?
    question stands
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigspenda73 View Post
    turn is fine, people are just missing BTN's starting stack
    no
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chusko View Post
    If the turn won't affect the villain's continuing range, why not get it all in there with a psb?
    Because if we bet 3/4 pot he is still folding a lil more then if we bet 1/2 pot. but when we bet 3/4 pot we are ALWAYS stacking him on the river. if we pot it he'll just fold all his weakest shit(this could be significantly more then he folds for 3/4 pot.

    I could be wrong obviously but this is what I'd go with.

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