Pre-flop odds

Howdy

This might not be easily explained here, but i wondered if anyone knew nonetheless.

Sometimes watching tourny's on the TV, when 2 players go All-In, and turn over their cards, they will say what the odds of them beating their opponent are and are normally within a couple of % of what the TV show is saying, and i just wondered how on earth they do it so quickly?

I can do Turn / River odds without any problems, but can't quite get my head around working out pre-flop odds

Anyone?

Alot of those, the commentary is done after the tourney is actually played and some of it is just a generalization...... A dominated hand is usually about 75/25 ie AK vs AQ, unpaired over cards to under cards is usually about 65/35, and overpair vs underpair is about 80/20, and something like A8 vs KQ is about 60/40. I think that covers them all. You can use pokerstove to look up any scenario you want.

Originally Posted by badandy519

You can use pokerstove to look up any scenario you want.

yeah, that's the thing to do. Type in certain scenarios (e.g. a pair vs one over and one under, Ace-Middle vs Two Broadways, AK v KQ, stuff like that) and make a note of them. Before you know it, they will become 2nd nature.

Sorry, i meant it was the actual players themselves saying it, not commentators, so i wondered if there was a less accurate, but quick way to guestimate the odds....

thanks though

Yeah, I figured you meant the players not the commentators after i reread it, but I was to lazy to edit my post. As far as the guestimates, the ones I posted should be most of the ones you will need. The only one I missed was AK vs a PP.... like 66+ is about 55/45. That's all ya need to go by:

80/20
75/25
66/34
60/40
55/45