pondering oop stuff .KQs on Kxx v loosie

he's playing 2nl so that in itself is a pretty good read

Originally Posted by bikes

he's playing 2nl so that in itself is a pretty good read

that means he's bad postflop as it means that a 100nl 12/10 is good preflop just because he is playing 100nl and his stats are 12/10 over 20 hands and you know better then me that a lot of 12/10 100nl players do suck postflop and thats why you make money.

for me that's not enough info. his stats do have some effect, that's why we call pre an call flop, because we think he has some worse hands in his range, but it is not enough info to assume that he is going to stack off w/ worse enough to make a raise/call here +EV, it can be +EV, not saying it may not, but at this point we dont have the info to assume that .

Originally Posted by Razvan729

that means he's bad postflop as it means that a 100nl 12/10 is good preflop just because he is playing 100nl and his stats are 12/10 over 20 hands and you know better then me that a lot of 12/10 100nl players do suck postflop and thats why you make money.

for me that's not enough info. his stats do have some effect, that's why we call pre an call flop, because we think he has some worse hands in his range, but it is not enough info to assume that he is going to stack off w/ worse enough to make a raise/call here +EV, it can be +EV, not saying it may not, but at this point we dont have the info to assume that .

being a pussy vs 60/30s will cost you a lot of value. widen your value ranges vs these fish, you don't need to be 100% sure that he sucks postflop. 99% is good enough.

and re: your 12/10 example, you need a lot more hands for tighter players to figure them out than you do extremely loose players. In 20 hands we've seen the 60/30 c-bet 4/4 times. a 12/10 in that sample we might see c-bet once