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    Obviously ATS obvious infers obvious positional awareness mr. obvious obviously. There is no such thing as utg ATS. I am just trying to clarify what fish is asking for.
    [00:29] <daven> dc, why not check turn behind
    [00:30] <DC> daven
    [00:30] <DC> on my hand?
    [00:30] <daven> yep
    [00:30] <DC> because I am drunk
    [00:30] <daven> nice reason
    [00:30] <daven> no further questions
    [00:30] <yaawn> ^^Lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Donachello View Post
    Obviously ATS obvious infers obvious positional awareness mr. obvious obviously. There is no such thing as utg ATS. I am just trying to clarify what fish is asking for.
    i think he's trying to infer we should flat pre if he doesn't open much EP, or 3b pre if he has the same 11% from like every position.

    You don't look at ATS to work this out, you can just look at their raising %'s from all positions. at least in HEM anyway (it's in the main pop-up)

    I would just flat pre because:
    a) He's UTG
    b) lol 3betting from the blinds vs UTG is like super strong (range wise)
    c) QQ isnt that hard to play post flop oop in a single raised
    d) getting 4b sucks

    also, donking the flop is pretty stupid too. Just check and play some poker, esp if UTG cbets a fair %. I guess if his cbet is v low donking might be fine. What you gunna do if UTG raises? or CO raises, or you get called in both spots.

    my donking range isn't very balanced, but I don't really think it needs to be at small/micro levels. I'd be donking here with my combo draws and sometimes sets some of the time, but just depends on how much UTG cbets and how much % CO bets when checked to vs missed cbet etc etc. The only reason I can think to donk here is if UTG cbet % is v low and you can get him to fold all his air/low pp type hands and if CO is a super tard who'd get in a bare FD or call 3 streets with TP.
    Last edited by Muzzard; 04-02-2011 at 05:57 PM.

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