Quote Originally Posted by Chopper
parenetheses represent total pot value.
lets say you have QJo in a limped pot pf ($.25). you have position.
flop comes Q Q 5 rainbow.
villain leads with a pot-sized bet ($.50). you raise 3X his raise ($1.25).
villain shoves over with his remaining $9.50.
you??

call right? you are top set and essentially even money with a call. you only need to be right about half the time to profit. and with top set, you are certain to be right better than half the time. right? logic is there, and so is the math.
With top trips you are certain to be ahead half of the time????? Well if you believe this in this situation then you call because the math tells you to. Your Logic got you to the "Im ahead half the time," and if you are wrong, that is your undoing. NOT THE MATH

If you were slightly more careful, put your opponent on a range, based on the situation and reads and the board, then found out your probability to win against that range, your "logic" may say something different. These probabilities may argue for a fold.

Please stop fighing the mathematics and try to understand what they mean. The maths is easy to do, there are programs everywhere that will even do them for you. The hard part of poker is hand/situation/opponent reading. I.e. getting to those probabilities via a logical process. If you get there and then ignore the mathematics, then you are wasting your time. If you use the mathematics you only make bad decisions when your logic is incorrect.