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    I raise because i think the combination of my fold equity and straight draw + overcard outs will make it profitable, is this the best way to handle this type of fishy short stack?
    How can this possibly be profitable. If he has a pair, you have 7 outs to beat him for a monster shipment of 30 cents minus rake. As already pointed out, you have no fold equity to a short stack that has a third of his chips committed preflop and is betting into you.

    Pick a better spot.
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    Default Why is everyone that comments on my post drunk?

    What you are saying makes literally no sense.

    " If he has a pair, you have 7 outs"
    I have 8 outs to the straights as well as 3 outs to a pair of aces 8 + 3 = 11

    If I have 0% fold equity as you guys are claiming, then my shoving is the same as just putting him all in. If this was the case i would be risking $.20 to win $.51 therefore i would need (.2)/(.51+.2) x 100 = 28.17% equity.

    even if his range was only two pair i would have a profitable push :

    Hand 0: 30.535% 29.33% 01.20% 7840 322.00 { Ad9s }
    Hand 1: 69.465% 68.26% 01.20% 18246 322.00 { QTs+, JTs, QTo+, JTo }

    Please this is not a spot to get away from, shoving is profitable, i am only asking if it is the most profitable way to handle this type of situation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by paratrooper99 View Post
    How can this possibly be profitable. If he has a pair, you have 7 outs to beat him for a monster shipment of 30 cents minus rake. As already pointed out, you have no fold equity to a short stack that has a third of his chips committed preflop and is betting into you.

    Pick a better spot.
    "pick a better spot" only applies to tournaments as far as i'm concerned, where the risk of being stacked is far more detrimental. this play is +EV, we should make it.

    how do we pick a better spot anyway? we iso'd against a super wide and weak range with a hand that has >50% equity against basically any two cards (minus the best ones, because he has a PFR over this sample and is likely raising 88+,AJ+ etc). then we flopped 30-40% equity and our decision is now trivial. where was our chance to pick a better spot? on the flop? preflop?

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