Quote Originally Posted by Monty3038
Quote Originally Posted by spoonitnow
At Full Tilt $100 capped NL with $30 starting stacks, preflop it folds to the SB who open shoves. Over an extremely large sample, you've seen him do this with about 20% of hands.

A call is +EV with T9s, true or false?

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Hmm... I read this and honestly don't really know how to figure it out, and since all I see in chat when I'm in there is non-poker related chat (but I don't go in very often)... I'm going to put some thoughts down and let you guys tell me I'm out in left field.

Ok, so SB has a 20% range for his open shoves, according to stove means 66+,A4s+,K8s+,Q9s+,J9s+,T9s,A9o+,KTo+,QTo+,JTo... now I doubt that range a little and would probably modify it some... say any pair, A9s+, KT+, ATo+, maybe QT+, suited connectors to 98.

I still think that might be a little wide, but that is a range to start with at least. Now... we have T9s. So we're behind the pairs, the highers SCs and probably behind a bit with AQ+, KQ+, probably on roughly equal footing with the rest of the range...

(I'm at work so I don't have time to stove it all).

So we are pretty well behind a fair amount of his range. We have to put in our stack to call to double up... so that means we have to win at least 1 out of 3 times or better to break even, or 33% of the time... of which we are behind a fair amount of his range...

I think the answer is false, without the time to do the math I don't think we are ahead of enough of his range to make it profitable... but then again, I'm not that good at the math as I am a casual player who hasn't taken the time to expand his game much...
We're putting in 29 to win 60, not 29 to win 90. We need way more equity than you think.