An interesting little altercation

i would disregard everything fnord has said. it's all very wrong.

below i will bold all of that i challenge or disagree with

Originally Posted by BorisTheSpider

Thoughts?

Villain is kind of loose and pretty aggro, plays position reasonably competently, but has spewy tendencies. He expects me to be opening the CO a lot.

My own thoughts: Flatting the preflop 3bet was weak, I should have 4bet him preflop. I wasn't thinking enough and made another preflop mistake that snowballed. I don't absolutely hate just flatting here, since even though I'm OOP it disguises my hand and could lead him to make a big mistake on a K or A high flop with AXs/AQ/AJ/KQ/KJ.

The strength of my hand kind of makes up for flatting OOP, but I still think it was a mistake overall and one I've already told myself I wouldn't make again, so this should serve as a lesson.

I'd already expected to C/R the flop before I ever saw it, when he just flats the C/R I believe he's either chopping, somewhat behind (AQ), or drawing to the flush or straight. More likely the flush, since although he's a bit spewy I don't think he'd flat here with a gutshot.

AJ would reraise all-in, and KJ too. JQ may flat, but that's all I can think of here that's ahead that flats apart from sets. I think he'd fold TT-

When he flats the turn, he's either drawing to the flush without odds, or thinks he's chopping with AK. He'd have shoved a set here I reckon.

To little left behind on the river to fold to an aggressive player like this, who is certainly capable of trying to push me off a chop.

Do you expect to be chopping here?

At first I really hated my play in this hand, but reviewing it later, although preflop was a mistake, I don't actually think postflop is that bad. Knowing his holdings helps make that determination, but I'm interested in alternative opinions without the benefit of knowing his hand.

you picked a very poor line that doesn't make any sense based on an awful assessment of hand ranges.

Yeah, the hand is total spew.

That said, if you're gonna spew just go ahead and shove the turn. You probably have outs if called and just get in the last word for about pot.

If the dynamic between two players has gotten extremely aggressive and distrustful, expecting anyone to fold a flush draw is pretty silly.

Originally Posted by aka_red

i would disregard everything fnord has said. it's all very wrong.

On the contrary, Fnord nailed it, and you are very wrong.

Ps. it's still spew.

Originally Posted by BorisTheSpider

On the contrary, Fnord nailed it, and you are very wrong.

i'd wait until you are beating mid-high stakes online no limit before you start telling people who beat mid-high stakes online no limit that they are wrong about no limit.

edit: ok this comes across harsher than intended. my point was that OP should be grateful that any high-stakes player bothers to give him advice and react accordingly. even if the advice was that he butchered every decision in this hand except for the preflop raise

Be nice.

To be fair, red probably beats far tougher games than I play in.