Quote Originally Posted by Pingviini
an undifined is not necessarily garbage. It can be 22 or 65s. If you define you hand by raising a certain amount with certain cards or calling with certain cards only in certain position just because your chart tells you so you will be in big trouble with opponents with at least some clue of the game.

Lot of people do stupid stuff like min-reraising PF with AA/KK or min-CR'ing a set on the flop, those people have not met Shania. Have you?
If you can't define your hand, than what business do you have playing it in the first place, especially after a raise? I define my hands not by a chart but by a simple preflop question: "How is this hand going to make me money?" Being consistent with calling and raising hands isn't defining your hand IMO, it's advertising your hand to the rest of the table.

The question that I responded to discussed calling a raise and not entering the pot UTG as per the examples. So instead of giving the table misdirection by entering the pot and raising 23s as you would AA, you have just received information from the raiser. Again, I think this would have a negative effect as it would encourage raises into you and actually restrict the number of playable hands you have since you don't get hands that can substain a raise often enough. Of what benefit would it be to call a raise and face two more raises?

From my understanding, Shania would want your 23s to compliment your AA, but not turn your marginal hands into 72o. The only way I could see in keeping with the concept is that you either reraise or are the last to call. I doubt it would be in keeping with Shania if you couldn't at least see a flop and better yet, your opponents get to see your cards.