How badly did I play this hand? 89s @ 16NL

Originally Posted by OngBonga

I give villain a strong range here when he raises turn, 33 44 55 99 A2ss, I need more info on him to give him wider. When he c/c flop he has lots of spade draws + overs, and 66-88 as well.

There is no way villain c/snap calls the flop w/ 33/55/99. I have seen SO few people c/snap a street with the nuts on an even fairly draw heavy board. The fact that villain gives no consideration to raising is such a huge tell and ignoring the fact that hero said he snap called is a huge error in my opinion.

Originally Posted by Icanhastreebet

...ignoring the fact that hero said he snap called is a huge error in my opinion.

OP didn't say "snap call" the flop, Yaaawn - he said villain called quite fast.

he could easily do that with legit drawing hands - AsXs, 76s.

i don't understand how we can call with 9 outs and only 3:1 pot odds. I can't see him putting anymore $$$ in on a Club river, so we have only exp. odds.

This is really fascinating - thanks xptboy!

Originally Posted by DoubleJ

OP didn't say "snap call" the flop, Yaaawn - he said villain called quite fast.

he could easily do that with legit drawing hands - AsXs, 76s.

i don't understand how we can call with 9 outs and only 3:1 pot odds. I can't see him putting anymore $$$ in on a Club river, so we have only exp. odds.

This is really fascinating - thanks xptboy!

? If he has AsXs then the turn is certainly a call. I doubt villain calls 76s pre but I guess it's possible. I guess we do need to win ~6$ on the river. Iunno if he's as nutty as everyone thinks he is do you really think villain will fold for 6$ more or not shove himself on a backdoor club river?

Originally Posted by Icanhastreebet

? If he has AsXs then the turn is certainly a call

sorry, i don't understand you here...what do you mean?