Thanks stacks, very informative.

Cheers Robb, thing is, i do sometimes expect them to shove the draw but have found usually it aint an unmaid hand they shoving. It's only the odd time i go: wha?? OMG. Like tonight i had AA about ... like 5 times in an hour or something! but anywho, one of them i go it all in, almost full stacked against Q9 where all that had done was pair their 9. Minority case though.

sarbox68, i sort of agree with that sentiment, except i'm not bashing on nits then calling their shove, that i wouldn't do. If a nit shoves i reeeeally want to look hard at my decision. I'm talking about that loose idiot who can't possibly be THAT lose. I've had my big PP beated by 72o before. But yes, fold when we know they have it/it's a coin toss is where i'm at and if i were reeeal good at thin value, i'd be increasing a BB/100, but at the moment these calls are on unsure feet.

70BB is like a read that someone's a bad player
at 10nl $5 or less is the quota, usually $2 or an odd amount. I play 60bb.