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 Originally Posted by martindcx1e
Originally Posted by Lithium
Originally Posted by Pelion
Originally Posted by Lithium
to find out at showdown what the villian was willing to bet with on earlier streets.
This is a leak. If you want to see what hands villain is showing down then pay attention to hands you arent involved with. Dont cost yourself extra by being curious.
Only if the villian plays everyone the same. If they do, I won't utilize this tool, but if it is someone whose play I need to think about, I will.
Also, watching a hand and making a read is different than being in the hand and making a read. I won't call a huge bet in relation to pot size (or any bet if I have the nut low or close to it) just to see if my read was right, but if the bet is small enough, my hand is good enough, and my chip stack large enough, I will call even if I feel beat. Sometimes I am beat, and sometimes I win, but in both cases I get information I want.
Lithium, I think you are overthinking it. You can call all you want just to see if your read was right or just for info. Just don't trick yourself into thinking it's +EV cuz it aint.
Whether any particular bet/call is +EV or not doesn't matter. Playing a metagame has very little to do with the ceterius paribus odds of winning over the long run. In fact, there is a school of thought that making only +EV plays is actually -EV.
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