Flush draws vs open-ended straight draws

I'm a poker noob and I need something explained to me. How come it "feels" like flush draws have a much a better chance than open-ended straight draws even though there's only a difference of 1 out?

Is there something I'm misunderstanding? Only counting the draw and nothing else, a flush draw gives you 9 outs and an open-ended straight draw gives you 8 outs, right? Is it just in my head that it feels like flush draws hit more often?

9>8 so yes they do

'cause when a flush hits it's like WHABAM THERE ARE THREE CARDS WITH THE SAME LITTLE PICTURES IN MY FACE, whereas when a straight hits it's just like, "Hey look, a seven. Sup."

Originally Posted by kiwiMark

'cause when a flush hits it's like WHABAM THERE ARE THREE CARDS WITH THE SAME LITTLE PICTURES IN MY FACE, whereas when a straight hits it's just like, "Hey look, a seven. Sup."

This is true, and it also means that straight draws are a little more valuable in terms of IMPLIED odds than the number of outs would indicate. You can more often get paid off by your straight (as long as there aren't 4 cards to the straight on the board) than by your flush, because when you open up and bet after a flush card hits, everyone in the back of their mind starts thinking FLUSH!

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Cause flushes are more purdy .

Originally Posted by kiwiMark

'cause when a flush hits it's like WHABAM THERE ARE THREE CARDS WITH THE SAME LITTLE PICTURES IN MY FACE, whereas when a straight hits it's just like, "Hey look, a seven. Sup."

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Originally Posted by LawDude

Originally Posted by kiwiMark

'cause when a flush hits it's like WHABAM THERE ARE THREE CARDS WITH THE SAME LITTLE PICTURES IN MY FACE, whereas when a straight hits it's just like, "Hey look, a seven. Sup."

This is true, and it also means that straight draws are a little more valuable in terms of IMPLIED odds than the number of outs would indicate. You can more often get paid off by your straight (as long as there aren't 4 cards to the straight on the board) than by your flush, because when you open up and bet after a flush card hits, everyone in the back of their mind starts thinking FLUSH!

I should note as well that the flip side of this is that flushes are easier to represent as a bluff because they are usually more obvious than straights.

Originally Posted by amir is cool

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