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    Default Extracting with a set OOP

    Opp is 54/8/3.0AF over 13 hands

    His preflop raising range on the BB I guess 66+,A8s+,ATo+,KTs+,QJs or so

    Since he seems aggressive post flop and the board is dry, I chose to first check on the flop. I think he cbets his entire range here. I wonder whether I should now check/raise or whether it would be a decent play to just call here and either check again on a blank/boat turn or donk a turn that puts a draw on the board or hit his range.
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    saw flop

    Button ($7.14)
    Hero (SB) ($7.34)
    BB ($3.66)
    UTG ($5.11)
    MP1 ($1.35)
    MP2 ($3.10)
    CO ($4.97)

    Preflop: Hero is SB with 2, 2
    3 folds, CO calls $0.05, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.03, BB bets $0.20, CO calls $0.15, Hero calls $0.15

    Flop: ($0.60) K, 2, 5 (3 players)
    Hero checks, BB bets $0.60, 1 fold

    Hero?
    Last edited by daviddem; 10-29-2010 at 10:36 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by daviddem View Post
    Opp is 54/8/3.0AF over 13 hands

    His preflop raising range on the BB I guess 66+,A8s+,ATo+,KTs+,QJs or so

    Since he seems aggressive post flop and the board is dry, I chose to first check on the flop. I think he cbets his entire range here. I wonder whether I should now check/raise or whether it would be a decent play to just call here and either check again on a blank/boat turn or donk a turn that puts a draw on the board or hit his range.
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    saw flop

    Button ($7.14)
    Hero (SB) ($7.34)
    BB ($3.66)
    UTG ($5.11)
    MP1 ($1.35)
    MP2 ($3.10)
    CO ($4.97)

    Preflop: Hero is SB with 2, 2
    3 folds, CO calls $0.05, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.03, BB bets $0.20, CO calls $0.15, Hero calls $0.15

    Flop: ($0.60) K, 2, 5 (3 players)
    Hero checks, BB bets $0.60, 1 fold

    Hero?
    wouldnt you want to donk the dry ones and check raise the wet ones cause hes more likely to barrel them than he is to barrel shit turn cards?
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    First the flop: so you think a call is better here? I think he cbets his whole range but the fact that he potted it made me think he had a K. Even if he has a K, calling might well be better I guess if he is not going to stack off with his (hypothetical) top pair. I realize that check raising the flop makes my hand pretty transparent to wary opps, but I'd think a 54/8 would pay more attention to his top pair than to what I've been doing.

    Not sure for the turn if I call. If it's wet and he hits a draw or improves, is he not likely to call a small donk bet with draws, or even raise if he hits two pairs, whereas if I check he will take his free card with draws? If it's dry and I check and show weakness, representing a second pair type of hand like JJ-88, he might fire a 2nd barrel even with air?
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    Quote Originally Posted by daviddem View Post

    Not sure for the turn if I call. If it's wet and he hits a draw or improves, is he not likely to call a small donk bet with draws, or even raise if he hits two pairs, whereas if I check he will take his free card with draws? If it's dry and I check and show weakness, representing a second pair type of hand like JJ-88, he might fire a 2nd barrel even with air?
    meh i like raising the flop just because i dont like to slowplay hands too much given this guys stats i doubt hes folding any K to a raise so id def just raise it up and get him to put in lots of money when he cannot fold TP...

    as for if you did flat....if hes good (which based on his stats he is not lol but still its a thought process you need to understand) then he is going to be more likely to barrel you on high cards (cards that hit his range) and cards that otherwise improve his equity (i.e give him draws) than he is on a blank turn.
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    fuck. Why not just stack-a-donk
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    I like call, donk any turn. Donk river. Cause by turn pot will be 1.8 with 3 left behind for fish. so u can bet 1.5 and leave a 1/3 psb on river.
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    If you checked the flop then raising his bet is a good play. Youre trying to maximize vs his Kx range and really nothing else. If he calls your raise then just bet turn + river and see if he cant fold his K
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