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    @Straight, ye I agreed. I told my bro I should have either just call for another $25 instead of all in. I don't know why I went all in to be honest, maybe greed or other maybe I happen to have a court trial, quit my job, and tired of school.

    The reason I limped in because I was hoping someone would raise, so I could reraise. Out of the 10 hands I played at the table, 9 out of 10 some idiot would raise with a stupid hand.

    I understand what you guys are saying, thanks for the advice guys. One more thing. Do you guys recommend raising pre-flop with pair of queens, kings, and aces? A lot of time, I would just limp to try and trap the person that raises. If he raises, I would just call. It's how I have been playing, so far, I have won $2000 during the 4 months I have been playing poker. I feel like I need to change my strategy up some more. I hope some of you high skill level players could give me some advice. Thanks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mikeander View Post
    @Straight, ye I agreed. I told my bro I should have either just call for another $25 instead of all in. I don't know why I went all in to be honest, maybe greed or other maybe I happen to have a court trial, quit my job, and tired of school.

    The reason I limped in because I was hoping someone would raise, so I could reraise. Out of the 10 hands I played at the table, 9 out of 10 some idiot would raise with a stupid hand.

    I understand what you guys are saying, thanks for the advice guys. One more thing. Do you guys recommend raising pre-flop with pair of queens, kings, and aces? A lot of time, I would just limp to try and trap the person that raises. If he raises, I would just call. It's how I have been playing, so far, I have won $2000 during the 4 months I have been playing poker. I feel like I need to change my strategy up some more. I hope some of you high skill level players could give me some advice. Thanks.
    Are live games this soft??
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    Quote Originally Posted by gotigers1234 View Post
    Are live games this soft??
    It depends on where and when, and, of course, what stakes.

    At my local casino, the $1/$3 tables on a Saturday night are about 70/30 shark to donk ratio. They're 10 seat tables and they play about 20 - 25 hands an hour with a steep rake ($4 max that comes out of almost every pot). Most people don't really hide their pockets when they look at them, so I can see the hole cards of the 2 people on either side of me. An empty chair is likely to be filled by someone who sits with ~20bb and will stack it off on their first pair.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mikeander View Post
    The reason I limped in because I was hoping someone would raise, so I could reraise.
    Unless you're playing against a table of zombies, this is a really dumb move. Let's put it this way, when I see someone I consider a donkey limp/raise, I assume they have AA and play accordingly. That does not mean I fold, I will often call if the price is good and there's lots of money left to play for, because most people who limp/raise AA pre flop are not good enough to fold them post flop, and so I win lots when I beat AA and lose very little when I don't.

    Limp/raising is such a strong fish move, that it should only be done with junk like J4s against thinking villains who think you're a donkey.

    If people are paying you off time and again when you limp/raise AA, then by all means carry on doing it, and carry on playing poker against these goons. But if you branch to online games, or play against people with at least half a brain, people will sniff out your AA time and again if you persist with this bad habit, and you'll turn a winning hand into a big loser.

    Just my opinion on the old limp/raise.

    Also, yes I'm raising QQ and KK, I'm also raising 77, AQs, sometimes 84s... people can not assume I have a big pair when I raise because I'm usually raising well over 15% of my hands. Don't be fooled into thinking I'm great at poker though, I'm just average.
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    What do you mean soft GoTiger? I'm new here and don't understand the terminology yet. I play 1-2 table, which is $60 to $300 buy in. I usually buy in with 200. When people bet, they would bet around $15 and up.

    I never lose this bad in 2 days. Just kinda pissed off I made a dumb call. The money hurts a little but it's no biggie. My head wasn't in the game at the time. I'm taking a break for several months while go out to look for a job, then I will be back. During my break, I will try and improve my game by playing home game and ask questions on here. Thanks for the advice guys.




    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    Unless you're playing against a table of zombies, this is a really dumb move. Let's put it this way, when I see someone I consider a donkey limp/raise, I assume they have AA and play accordingly. That does not mean I fold, I will often call if the price is good and there's lots of money left to play for, because most people who limp/raise AA pre flop are not good enough to fold them post flop, and so I win lots when I beat AA and lose very little when I don't.

    Limp/raising is such a strong fish move, that it should only be done with junk like J4s against thinking villains who think you're a donkey.

    If people are paying you off time and again when you limp/raise AA, then by all means carry on doing it, and carry on playing poker against these goons. But if you branch to online games, or play against people with at least half a brain, people will sniff out your AA time and again if you persist with this bad habit, and you'll turn a winning hand into a big loser.

    Just my opinion on the old limp/raise.

    Also, yes I'm raising QQ and KK, I'm also raising 77, AQs, sometimes 84s... people can not assume I have a big pair when I raise because I'm usually raising well over 15% of my hands. Don't be fooled into thinking I'm great at poker though, I'm just average.
    Gotcha. It's just that sometimes i'd raise with those hands, and the flop comes out nothing, and I just kick myself asking myself why I wasted money raising. But if I don't raise, then limpers will hit their cards. I guess losing a little is better than losing a lot or all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mikeander View Post
    It's just that sometimes i'd raise with those hands, and the flop comes out nothing, and I just kick myself asking myself why I wasted money raising. But if I don't raise, then limpers will hit their cards. I guess losing a little is better than losing a lot or all.
    Preflop, the idea is to open both premium hands (AA, KK, AK) and some weaker hands (TT, KJ, A8) with the same preflop raise. Sounds like your $15 open-raise bet. On the weaker hands that may cause problems postflop, we're happy to have them fold and surrender the blinds. + $3. But they know we're pretty likely to have a big hand, so it makes our cbets (continuation bets) more believable when we bet out on the flop.

    If you wanna get better, may I suggest that you dump $100 online and play microstakes NLHE? You can play about 10x as many hands per hour as you can in the casinos and in home games, and you'll get tons of experience playing basic tight-aggressive poker.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Robb View Post
    Preflop, the idea is to open both premium hands (AA, KK, AK) and some weaker hands (TT, KJ, A8) with the same preflop raise. Sounds like your $15 open-raise bet. On the weaker hands that may cause problems postflop, we're happy to have them fold and surrender the blinds. + $3. But they know we're pretty likely to have a big hand, so it makes our cbets (continuation bets) more believable when we bet out on the flop.

    If you wanna get better, may I suggest that you dump $100 online and play microstakes NLHE? You can play about 10x as many hands per hour as you can in the casinos and in home games, and you'll get tons of experience playing basic tight-aggressive poker.
    I live in the U.S(philly). I thought online poker is done in the U.S? The only way people can play online poker is outside of U.S If I'm missing something, let me know, because I wouldn't mind playing online for fun.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mikeander View Post
    I live in the U.S(philly). I thought online poker is done in the U.S? The only way people can play online poker is outside of U.S If I'm missing something, let me know, because I wouldn't mind playing online for fun.
    I live near Atlanta, GA. It was difficult playing online for much of the past year, so I basically took a year off. If it's "illegal" to play online, it's a misdemeanor, and the DOJ appears interested in targeting "commercial" poker, not individuals.

    Some online poker rooms have begun to allow US players again. I got money onto Carbon poker easily last month, and I really like the Merge network. I'm currently at Black Chip, another Merge network poker room.

    All that said, I'm not suggesting any US players put any money on any poker sites without understanding they are at risk for losing it all to DOJ whimsy.
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    I just registered for carbonpoker. My questions are, since this is the first time I ever play online poker, lol.

    Is the $600 bonus real money or just for fun money? Can i withdraw the money and put it in my bank account? How does the bonus and real money work. I'm new at this. So far, it seems fun, the layout and such.

    I'm assuming the bonus and where it says "play money" section is just for fake money right?"
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    Quote Originally Posted by mikeander View Post
    I live in the U.S(philly). I thought online poker is done in the U.S? The only way people can play online poker is outside of U.S If I'm missing something, let me know, because I wouldn't mind playing online for fun.
    There is no national law against playing poker online:
    Federal Wire Act - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    The UIGEA addresses money transfers and not the individuals making them. Additionally, it is only an issue if federal or state laws are being broken. Online poker is not a national crime, as has been clarified. So it's up to your state laws:
    Unlawful Internet Gambling Enforcement Act of 2006 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    This seems to state that playing cards is specifically exempted from being considered "gambling" in PA:
    Pennsylvania Gambling Laws

    Congrats! It looks like you can legally play poker online in PA. Don't take my word for it. Check it out and make up your mind.
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    It seems like if I don't make any deposit with my real money, then the bonus code is just play money instead of real money correct?

    Let say I deposit $20 plus the $600, would I have $620 then? When will I get a check for that or how many hands do I have to play in order to get a withdraw check? Sorry if I sound like a total newbie, it's my first time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mikeander View Post
    What do you mean soft GoTiger? I'm new here and don't understand the terminology yet. I play 1-2 table, which is $60 to $300 buy in. I usually buy in with 200. When people bet, they would bet around $15 and up.)
    Soft means the games are easy... I am assuming you are a new player and above you said you have made over 2k so I am wondering if the live games are this beatable.

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