Quote Originally Posted by aokrongly
what buyin are you at?
I play NL200

But I have as recently as last week been murdering the 50NL on empire clearing the 1400 hand bonus.

I stand by my original assessment that to advise players fold TPTK to a raise generally is really quite wrong (although I do like what you have to say about your opponent's bets)

I believe a much more accurate way to play is that warning bells should sound in your head if you have TPTK and your opponent raises. Don't think "aha time to cash in". If there's one thing to stress it's that big pots aren't won with TPTK. A much better approach is to consider what I consider the salient factors and the main ones are:

P: Position
A: Aggression
S: Stacks
S: Street (of raise)
P: Pre flop action
O: Other live players
R: Reraises / Repeated strength
T: Texture (of flop)

Position of the raiser. Be wary of a raise by a player in position on a board with straight/flush draws. Could be a semi-bluff. If you're out of position you want to escalate the pot and if you're in position you can be more comfortable just calling and seeing.

Aggression. How aggressive is the raiser? Does he raises a lot? Is he one to raise a lot of marginal hands to see where he's at?

Stack Sizes. Short stack (started with only 40BB or costs only 25BB to just go all in) dictates a call

What (S)treet the raise? Turn raises to me are especially strong. Yes I sometimes make them with air, but not all that often.

Pre flop action: who was the pre flop aggressor? Did I raise and get called, did I call a raise, did I call a reraise, did I reraise? If you lead into a PFR and he raises, well he was kind of expected to so you can't really read too much into the raise.

Other live players. Especially if they have been raising or don't show much intention to fold. Easy situation to fold TPTK

Reraises: they are strong. Repeated and consistent agression is also a sign of strength. If you call a flop bet with just overcards and then you hit an A and bet it and your opponent still goes ballistic, then you're in trouble.

Texture of the flop. You're always afraid of trips. But how likely is a 2 pair? How likely is a made hand? A K73 flop is pretty unlikely to yield a 2 pair that beats you but AK on a KQ10 flop is pretty dangerous.

Playing TPTK to a raise is hard. And you'll get de-stacked your fair share. Hopefully with the guidelines it's possible to stack TPNK or drive off a bluff to win more money than when you lose your stack. And it is still true that you don't want to lose a 100BB pot with just TPTK.