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 Originally Posted by andy-akb
This I disagree with. This river completes a fairly obvious flush draw which would be easy to see somebody chasing given the betting of the hero. Id check behind, why would you bet or even raise here?
Because it's showing weakness. If you raised all the previous streets, you have basically been saying "I have a good hand" all the time. The other guys don't know what you have. But if you suddenly check.. they might think "hm, less confidence in his hand, maybe he doesn't have anything that strong afterall".
Plus you have trips, a possible draw that hits can't scare you. Someone might think you were drawing too or whatever, raise with LP (or just as an attempt to steal the pot) and you're gonna fold your trips then? If someone else would be raising, I'd be more tempted to check/call (if not too huge).
Obviously you would want to avoid these types of situations where you have TP (or here, trips) and a "possible draw" hits on the river with three people still in there. But there are other possibilities too ofcourse.. a guy could be holding overpair, a guy could have 2 pair, even a lower set etc. They'll bet too if you slow down on the river, and those you have beat.
Also, do you think he should have been in this hand to begind with?
No, A8 is a horrible hand to call with. It's not a drawing hand, it's not good for TP-situations. He actually hit one of the best flops imaginable with A8. TPTK. In a 4 people pot, drawing hands actually have more value than hands going for TP. A8 is neither a good drawing hand, not a good powerhand.
I think the biggest problem with this hand is him playing it especially in EP and especially after a raise.
Well, yeah. But as played I'd bet a bit over the pot on that flop and hope everyone folds. Ok it's TP but an 8 still gives many overpair vulnerabilities. I've taken a stack today with TT and A9 not letting go of his TPTK on a 9-high flop.
Don't play for TP with more than 2 opponents. And if it does come around, price them HARD for drawing and basically hope everyone folds.
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