Quote Originally Posted by kb coolman
Quote Originally Posted by Muzzard
Why? We have denied pot odds with this bet, he only had like 18% equity. Sure we could bet a little more say maybe 4.50, but I don't think it's really acheiving that much if we bet pot.
Would you explain this concept to me, please? If I have a villian on a draw, don't I want to bet as much as he will call to magnify his mistake?
OK, lets put him on a range in hand 2. To call this flop be he usually will have a FD/35/JT/JQ/JK/J9/55-TT, possibly some floats. To maximise the value from his whole range we shouldnt mash the pot button as hard as possible, givin that most his range isn't strong enough to call 3 streets for value.

The thing is, most beginners are thinking OMG FD, it's in his range so they try and bet as much as possible to 'deny odds'. However, the bet size was denying odds anyway for the FD and if any bigger may force out some of the weaker end of the range, such as J9/JT/55-TT. If he does have Jx or smaller PP, thats a pretty bad turn card for him. We need to maximise our value prom the WHOLE range rather that just the draw portion.

Also, if we can fold river when flush comes in, if he has FD, he's making a pretty hudge miste as we denied any implied odds that he needed to make up on the river bets wheb we denied pot odds on the turn.