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    i agree to math, its a very important part of the game, but in a case like this, AK vs QQ+,AK you need no math, it should from instinct to fold since you are at the bottom of his range.
    you do math holding KK and you know for sure villain shoves only KK+?! no you dont,you instant fold.
    same here,dont even think about shoving AK into QQ+AK

    i agree to david, learn the math, but also learn that shoving with the bottom of someones range is uselles.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Razvan729 View Post
    i agree to math, its a very important part of the game, but in a case like this, AK vs QQ+,AK you need no math, it should from instinct to fold since you are at the bottom of his range.
    you do math holding KK and you know for sure villain shoves only KK+?! no you dont,you instant fold.
    same here,dont even think about shoving AK into QQ+AK

    i agree to david, learn the math, but also learn that shoving with the bottom of someones range is uselles.
    This is not about doing the shoving, it's about calling a shove. And when calling a shove it is often correct to call with the bottom of opp's range or even worse than that or even any 2 cards if the pot odds justify doing so. If opp had shoved $1 into a $2 pot, it would be an obvious call with AK vs {QQ+,AK}

    Similarly, you don't "instant fold" to a shove when holding KK vs KK+. If your pot odds justify it, you call. If not, you fold.

    Thought you'd know that by now?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Razvan729 View Post
    i agree to math, its a very important part of the game, but in a case like this, AK vs QQ+,AK you need no math, it should from instinct to fold since you are at the bottom of his range.
    you do math holding KK and you know for sure villain shoves only KK+?! no you dont,you instant fold.
    same here,dont even think about shoving AK into QQ+AK

    i agree to david, learn the math, but also learn that shoving with the bottom of someones range is uselles.
    plz for the lov eof jesus ignore the bold parts of this post theyare all wrong

    lots of cool times to shove AK into someone just calling wtith like QQ+ and AK and shit and plus ther are times to shove to bottom of vililians calling range

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