58s multiway

Originally Posted by Zorkion

you sir, are a poo face.

i HAVE read books, and i HAVE read articles on preflop play. the thing is just that im not interested so much in memorizing some silly chart of what hands to play in different positions as much as i am interested in the reasoning that led to that conclusion. Thus, insofar as poker is a mathematical game, I am especially interested in the mathematically based foundations for these decisions


I HAVE MULTIPLE CENTIPEDES IN MY VAGINA


..er, books i mean. really. on my bookshelf.

Poo face I may be, but still, silly charts are there for a reason, and that is, to make preflop decisions easy until you learn reasoning behind your actions.

Let me ask you a question.
Do you always call 58s vs an utg opener?
No? Why not? Is there a reasoning behind it or you simply have an inconsistent preflop strategy?
What is your VPIP? Do you know that VPIP of person who calls pre with 58s or better is around 55%? Is your VPIP that high?

Originally Posted by Nekrogovner

Let me ask you a question.
Do you always call 58s vs an utg opener?
No? Why not? Is there a reasoning behind it or you simply have an inconsistent preflop strategy?
What is your VPIP? Do you know that VPIP of person who calls pre with 58s or better is around 55%? Is your VPIP that high?

I like where this is going. And its all good.

Originally Posted by Nekrogovner

What is your VPIP? Do you know that VPIP of person who calls pre with 58s or better is around 55%? Is your VPIP that high?

Some very rough assumptions being made that the PokerStove slider % which includes 85s = hero's entire range. More likely that hero here gets excited with "implied odds" when he sees an UTG raiser (omg he has AA and will stack off every time I hit!) and a pretty suited hand, and had just had grossly overestimated the implied odds he actually has. Who of us here hasn't overestimated their implied odds at some point or another? Also situations like calling a BU steal in the BB with 55 and being surprised when you hardly ever win his stack when you hit a set.