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    Range... it's tough with no reads but we have to at least try.

    Pre Flop -

    UTG+1 - 22-JJ, ATs+, AJ+
    SB - any two (obv not AK, JJ+)

    Flop -

    SB bets - Kx, QT, KT, KQ, TT, Jx, clubs
    Hero raises
    UTG+1 calls - AJ, TT, JJ, Ax clubs
    Sb raises - QT, KT, KQ, TT, J9, AJ
    Hero ??

    I think we should fold, but my ranges may be wrong, we have little information. It helps that UTG+1 is continuing and we should see a showdown regardless, offering us the chance to make notes on these two for future reference.

    Hero shoves
    UTG+1 calls - J9, AJ, Jx clubs, Ax clubs, TT, or JJ at a push
    SB calls - it's 2pr at least, and we have bottom 2pr.

    After they both call our shove, it seems clear to me that one of them has us crushed and the other has a monster draw at least, or is also crushing us. But we should already know this before we shove. Fold!
    Last edited by OngBonga; 09-01-2010 at 03:01 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    Range... it's tough with no reads but we have to at least try.

    Pre Flop -

    UTG+1 - 22-JJ, ATs+, AJ+
    SB - any two (obv not AK, JJ+)
    Aren't these a little wide?
    Not that it really matters, your final analysis is to not shove.

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