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    Default 4NL - AJs in SB

    Cut off is 33/10 from 74 hands. BB is unknown.

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    UTG+1 ($2.67)
    MP1 ($2.76)
    MP2 ($2.17)
    MP3 ($2.94)
    CO ($3.58)
    Button ($4.65)
    (Hero)SB ($4.89)
    BB ($1.19)
    UTG ($5.74)

    Preflop: Hero is SB with J, A
    5 folds

    5 folds, CO calls $0.04, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.02, BB checks

    Flop: ($0.12) 6, 9, 6 (3 players)
    Hero checks, BB checks, CO checks

    Turn: ($0.12) A (3 players)
    Hero checks, BB bets $0.04, 1 fold, Hero raises to $0.14, BB raises to $0.24, Hero calls $0.10

    River: ($0.60) 8 (2 players)
    Hero ??


    Would you always raise AJs from SB PreFlop?
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    I would have to have some pretty solid reads not to!
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    I wouldn't always raise AJs from SB, but I would against a CO limp. AJs is a great hand to play heads up, and I don't want to give away free cards to the BB. Also, taking initiative pre-flop and C-betting this board is fine.

    As played, c/f the river. I might call a bet of $0.20 or less. TPGK on a paired board is not that amazing, after all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MadMojoMonkey View Post
    I wouldn't always raise AJs from SB, but I would against a CO limp. AJs is a great hand to play heads up, and I don't want to give away free cards to the BB. Also, taking initiative pre-flop and C-betting this board is fine.

    As played, c/f the river. I might call a bet of $0.20 or less. TPGK on a paired board is not that amazing, after all.
    yeah! thats what i meant...

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    Based on what do you decide whether to bet into a nut flush draw or just check it?
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    I'd of raised/bet every street.
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    Raise pre, bet flop.
    Quote Originally Posted by wufwugy View Post
    ongies gonna ong
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    What Ong said, and against someone who looks pretty loose like this I'd check-call a reasonable bet on the river. There's every chance he can show up with a 6, but he can also do this with a weaker ace.
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    Quote Originally Posted by maverick007 View Post
    Based on what do you decide whether to bet into a nut flush draw or just check it?
    I'm C-betting the draw if:
    1) I was the PFA (pre-flop aggressor), OOP
    2) I was the PFA, IP and it's checked to me

    I'm calling a bet to take the draw if:
    1) I was the PFA, IP and there is a bet and no raise
    2) There was no PFA and I'm IP to a less than pot-sized bet
    3) There was no PFA and I'm OOP to a less than 1/2 pot-sized bet

    I'm checking behind for a free card if:
    1) I was not the PFA and I can

    I'm folding the flop if:
    1) there is more than 1 bet and the board is paired

    I'm raising to get all the monies in if:
    1) I will get at least 3:1 on a shove and the board is not paired
    2) I have 12+ outs, and the board is not paired

    I'd love some feedback on this
    Last edited by MadMojoMonkey; 06-15-2012 at 02:25 PM.
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    Raise to 5-7bb PF.

    Lead pot on flop as played.

    Lead pot on turn. As played, don't just call his raise, try to get the money in.
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    MMM:

    Checking behind when you aren't the PFA and you can doesn't mean you should. You still just have a draw and if its a really bad board for villain, you can easily steal the pot away with a 1/3-2/3 PSB.

    Example: You're in CO w/ 89dd, UTG+1 straightforward mass-tabling 11/9 opens to 3.5bb, you flat and it's HU. Board comes 46Tdd and he checks to you. Pretty easy stab to take it down here. You have loads of equity, he has a lot of AK/AQ combos that will likely just c/f these types of boards. And if he gets squirrely and goes for the c/r its an easy ship depending on sizing w/ your combo draw.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dranger7070 View Post
    Example: You're in CO w/ 89dd, .... Board comes 46Tdd and he checks to you....
    Quote Originally Posted by MadMojoMonkey View Post
    I'm raising to get all the monies in if:
    1) I will get at least 3:1 on a shove and the board is not paired
    2) I have 12+ outs, and the board is not paired
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    Quote Originally Posted by MadMojoMonkey View Post
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    Ok, make the T a 3. And its the same situation. Would be less inclined to jam over his c/r if he did it. Still an excellent situation to stab at it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dranger7070 View Post
    MMM:
    And if he gets squirrely and goes for the c/r its an easy ship depending on sizing w/ your combo draw.
    Hi Dranger, could you please elaborate on this please? How and when do you re-raise all in? What are the factors taken in consideration?
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    Yupp, so raise pre.

    All the problems started due to me not raising AJs pre.
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    maverick:

    Take my advice with a grain of salt since I suck at poker and I just started playing again a few weeks ago after a long hiatus.

    On that note:

    With the hand example I gave, we have a massive combo draw and it's a good idea to get the money in when we can put in the last bet. If we just had the 9hi FD vs this big of a nit, I'd likely just fold since we have major reverse implied odds w/ our hand. He could already have a set which would cut out a FD out and he could still hit the FH. Not to mention AKdd, AQdd, etc.

    The more aggro he is and likely to stack off with an overpair (in this situation JJ+) I don't have a problem trying to get the money in.

    Should probably mention fold equity and shit, but w/e. You can easily look these things up.
    Again, I suck at poker, feel free to critique.
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    Yupp will need to look up fold equity.

    Thanks for the advice though.
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    Bet the flop unless you know CO is stabby.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fnord View Post
    Bet the flop unless you know CO is stabby.
    In which case c/r?
    Quote Originally Posted by wufwugy View Post
    ongies gonna ong
  20. #20
    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    In which case c/r?
    c/c is fine too. Depends on your overall game plan for these spots.
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    I'm a maniac on the flop with nfd. c/c makes me vomit.
    Quote Originally Posted by wufwugy View Post
    ongies gonna ong
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    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    I'm a maniac on the flop with nfd. c/c makes me vomit.
    This. lol

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