25nl: Turned top 2 after flop donk Axxxtt board

[daviddem]

yeah ok, I understand that the EV of the turn bet is > 0 even if we call a shove on non 8 spade rivers. But once we are on the non 8 spade river facing his shove, folding has an EV of 0 and calling has a negative EV. So why call??

As an aside, it looks to me that villain's turn bet is on the weak side, and he is a 20/14 so is he really going to call that big a turn raise with a naked FD?

[spoonitnow]

yeah ok, I understand that the EV of the turn bet is > 0 even if we call a shove on non 8 spade rivers. But once we are on the non 8 spade river facing his shove, folding has an EV of 0 and calling has a negative EV. So why call??

Because I don't negotiate with terrorists.

As an aside, it looks to me that villain's turn bet is on the weak side, and he is a 20/14 so is he really going to call that big a turn raise with a naked FD?

Do you want him to call if we raise much less?

[daviddem]

Do you want him to call if we raise much less?

Yes, if I decide firsthand that I will not spew chips to make a political statement on spade rivers facing a shove.

edit: is your strategy a good example of making a 0EV play for balance? (actually a negative EV play if you look only at the river)

[rong]

Because I don't negotiate with terrorists.

Hahaha