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    Default 25nl overpair on paired board 3-way

    so another hand which is probably pretty simple but i'm too retarded to know what to do because i dont know what fish have when they minraise.

    so opener is 16/11 over 85 with no other real reads.
    flat caller is 43/14 over 56, and has 3bet 5/25 opportunities (20%). also have the following notes:
    - L/C in MP, PSB donk Axxr
    - L/3bet/call 4b w/44 in SB vs BB. B/C AI on J67r flop

    let me know if those notes need deciphering.

    i'll say the opener's range is something like 22+,AJs+,AQo+,KQs,KQo

    and the flat-callers range is far bigger, something like:
    22-JJ, A2s+,A7o+,K4s+,KTo+,Q7s+,QTo+,J7s+,J9o+,T7s+,96s+, 85s+,75s+,64s+

    Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (9 handed) - Full Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

    Button ($25)
    SB ($25)
    BB ($34.51)
    UTG ($20.35)
    UTG+1 ($20.40)
    MP1 ($30.89)
    MP2 ($18.17)
    MP3 ($41.40)
    Hero (CO) ($29.87)

    Preflop: Hero is CO with J, J
    2 folds, MP1 bets $0.85, MP2 calls $0.85, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.85, 3 folds

    Flop: ($2.90) 7, 9, 7 (3 players)
    MP1 bets $1.75, MP2 raises to $3.50

    disclaimer: i analysed this hand as if i had some guarantee that the cbettor was going to fold 100%. obviously he's not, but dealing with two ranges kind of fucks me over. meaning i'm too dumb to deal with it. so yeah.

    lacking reads on his min-raising range, i'm pretty lost. i'm thinking the Cbettors range is most if not all of his preflop range. so i'm not yet particularly worried about the cbettor. this hand confused me so i stoved my equity versus some different ranges to get a feel for what i should do IF x was his range.

    if he minraises all hands 88+ in value from his preflop range i have 55% equity against the minraising range ALONE.

    if the bottom of his range is A9, i have 40%:

    Board: 9h 7h 7s
    Dead:

    equity win tie pots won pots tied
    Hand 0: 40.547% 39.49% 01.05% 17985 480.00 { JcJh }
    Hand 1: 59.453% 58.40% 01.05% 26595 480.00 { JJ-99, 77, A9s, A7s, K7s, Q7s, J7s, T7s, 97s, 87s, 75s+, A9o, A7o }


    so while my equity is never horrendous, and there is dead money in the pot, i feel like i suffer from RIO going to the turn. at best i'm putting myself in a tough situation because i do not have confident enough reads to really put my stack in on the turn. thoughts on my best line of action facing the flop min-raise? and your plan for future streets if you want to call? (note, minraising villain has almost exactly 1PSB left in his stack going to the turn)

    some questions:

    - is there a case for 3betting this pre because our guy in the middle is likely to call with a wide and dominated range?
    - how do you react to the flop min-raise? and if you want to call, what is your turn plan?

    thanks.
    Last edited by rpm; 02-28-2011 at 09:24 AM.

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