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25 NL River value rasie?

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  1. #1

    Default 25 NL River value rasie?

    The villian has been playing pretty loose 46/14 over 70 hands. but he hasn't really been 3 betting anyone untill this hand. So assumed that his hand range has narrowed to a top tier hand. When he raises the turn I'm not sure I can fold my set in this spot because i think i beat a decent amount of his range. What would you do with the river? Is there any value in raising the river?

    PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (7 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

    UTG ($10.80)
    MP1 ($49.35)
    Hero (MP2) ($26.65)
    CO ($25)
    Button ($24.30)
    SB ($25.10)
    BB ($26.55)

    Preflop: Hero is MP2 with 8, 8
    2 folds, Hero bets $0.80, CO calls $0.80, 1 fold, SB raises to $1.35, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.55, CO calls $0.55

    Flop: ($4.30) 3, K, 6 (3 players)
    SB checks, Hero checks, CO checks

    Turn: ($4.30) 8 (3 players)
    SB bets $1.25, Hero raises to $5.60, 1 fold, SB raises to $9.95, Hero calls $4.35

    River: ($24.20) 6 (2 players)
    SB bets $2, Hero calls $2

    Total pot: $28.20 | Rake: $1.35
  2. #2
    get it in on the turn.

    Failing that, absolutely get it in on the river. You have the second nuts against a terrible opponent this is like the easiest shove in the history of easy shoves.
  3. #3
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    d0zer: he has third nuts
    but he HAD second nuts on the turn and I would probably ship it in
    failing that I would ship it in on the river
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    are you batshit insane? get it in somewhere for the love of god.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JKDS
    are you batshit insane? get it in somewhere for the love of god.
    +1
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    Quote Originally Posted by iopq
    d0zer: he has third nuts
    I knew some nitpicking bastard was gunna correct me on that.

    1) 1 combo isn't worth mentioning especially when villain is like never 3betting 66

    2) We often use the term 'nuts' non-literally

    3) I wish I could slap you through TCP/IP.

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    LOL.

    So, were you just waiting to see who was gonna be the nitpicking bastard dozer?
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  8. #8
    Quote Originally Posted by settecba
    Quote Originally Posted by JKDS
    are you batshit insane? get it in somewhere for the love of god.
    +1
    I might be insane for not shipping it, but my play leans on the more cautious side. I felt that his 3rd bet wouldn't have been a a mini re raise if he was weak.

    Granted i see that everyone thinks i should have shipped with 3rd nuts.

    Thanks for your thoughts.
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    Not that I'm terribly worried about KK, but the turn line (small bet "Please somebody stay in this hand", min-raise "Please don't fold out") could certainly be KK. The $2 lead into a $24 pot when the board pairs, though, is dumb and screams blocking bet ("Christ, I hope this idiot wasn't raising the turn with a @#$%@ club draw") and you can probably get a call if you ship it, since you've both only got $12 or so behind. Calls from flushes, AK, AA (lol).

    You definitely need to raise something. A shove is probably fishiest, and may get called lighter than a raise to $6.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dejection08
    Quote Originally Posted by settecba
    Quote Originally Posted by JKDS
    are you batshit insane? get it in somewhere for the love of god.
    +1
    I might be insane for not shipping it, but my play leans on the more nitty side.
    fyp
  12. #12
    how cool did you feel when he turned over KK?
  13. #13
    You lost this hand because you open to .8 instead of .75 or 1. Pick a non gay looking raise size next time.

    He has AA in his range too lfdo, maybe AK some % of the time. Turn call is bad re-raise and get it in there.

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