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    Default [5NL] KQo, IP, standard spot?

    Villain is 36/29/12 (3bet) through 58 hands. 75% cbet, no reads.

    PokerStars - $0.05 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
    Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

    BTN: $2.50
    SB: $4.68
    BB: $5.75
    UTG: $12.89
    MP: $6.51
    Hero (CO): $5.22

    SB posts SB $0.02, BB posts BB $0.05

    Pre Flop: (pot: $0.07) Hero has K Q

    fold, fold, Hero raises to $0.15, fold, fold, BB raises to $0.50, fold

    BB wins $0.32

    I realize this is probably a standard spot but whatever. Should I be folding this or is that too nitty?

    Villain is playing pretty loose and aggressive but I feel with his image if I do hit a K or Q I could get myself into trouble and he could quite easily be holding AK/AQ. He has 75% cbet so is probably gonna barrel on most flops, just not sure how to proceed if I do call or if I should be calling at all..

    Thoughts?
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    I'm of the opinion that you can probably call here profitably. You'll probably learn a lot here if you break down your range in terms of what you would 4-bet for value, what you would call and what you would 4-bet as a bluff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by spoonitnow View Post
    I'm of the opinion that you can probably call here profitably. You'll probably learn a lot here if you break down your range in terms of what you would 4-bet for value, what you would call and what you would 4-bet as a bluff.
    I haven't really given a lot of thought to my 4bet ranges, it's probably something I should start working on.

    Just as a quick point, should I be 4bet bluffing a 36/29?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cobra_1878 View Post
    Just as a quick point, should I be 4bet bluffing a 36/29?
    A 36/29 isn't really important I don't think.

    Look at what he 3bets with (12% is pretty high), does his 3bet sizing differ (if so any patterns?) how often does he fold to 4bets? Does he always stack off to 4bets?

    He may be ahead, but he must have more to his 3bet range than QQ+, AQ+.

    Only playing back premium hands against someone who 3bets a lot just allows them to get out of the way when you do play back unless they have a monster themselves.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ImSavy View Post
    A 36/29 isn't really important I don't think.

    Look at what he 3bets with (12% is pretty high), does his 3bet sizing differ (if so any patterns?) how often does he fold to 4bets? Does he always stack off to 4bets?

    He may be ahead, but he must have more to his 3bet range than QQ+, AQ+.

    Only playing back premium hands against someone who 3bets a lot just allows them to get out of the way when you do play back unless they have a monster themselves.
    I know that but I don't think a 12% 3bet is truly reliable through only 58 hands. I know we should 4bet bluff to exploit villain's with a high 3bet %, I suppose I just didn't know whether the 3bet stat become relevant through this small a sample size.
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    It's not at all, but it's still pushing that way I think. 36/29 is pretty LAGy too so it would add up.
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    Well you can either 4-bet bluff because it will be profitable on its own or 4-bet bluff because you want to balance your value range.
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    I don't think folding is too nitty but this guy looks really loose so far. Call or 4b are both fine obviously. If you think he has some broadway type shit in his range that folds to a 4b then calling is 100% superior BUT 4b bluffing a bunch of shit is going to be better v this range. If he's polarized then calling is likely to be best(Especially with his super high cbet %)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cobra_1878 View Post
    [...] I know we should 4bet bluff to exploit villain's with a high FT4bet %, [...]
    FYP

    It's not a good idea to bluff someone because they bet too much.

    It's a good idea to bluff someone because they fold too much.

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